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Cassell Emile Banov c 1880 Russia / USA

Married Dec 1906 to Fanny Goldberg Prestwich Manchester UK

He is not on any UK Census.

Found 1 entry for him in the USA 1910 Census of Ohio as a Lodger and i think what says a Merchant Retailer of Jewellery and it says Married.

He fathered my grandad in 1919 Manchester Prestwich, we are presuming as Fanny is on his B Cert.

But i cannot for the life of me find any other details.

Just for ref:
Marriages Dec 1906
Banov Cassell Emile Manchester 8d 475
GOLDBERG Fanny Manchester 8d 475

Births Dec 1919
Banov Joseph Goldberg Prestwich 8d 591

What was his Father's name on the marriage certificate?
Thank-you

Is Beatrice a relative?
Births Sep 1917
Banov Beatrice Goldberg Manchester 8d 353

Its not arrived yet i am still waiting for it.

I guess i should not presume intil i have it infront of me but, the surname is unusual and Joseph Banov b 1919 is my grandad and Fanny Goldberg his mother.

I the details from BMD and Ancestry on the marriage, but it just seems weird there is no trace of him not even a death? Even with the worldwide mebership on ancestry it turned up nothing :(

I have requested the cert for that too and another one i found Patrice b 1916 Goldberg Mother.

Not got any of them yet am getting impatient he he :)

Im thinking something a bit fishy here ha ha.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/796738

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Cassell Banow Name: Cassell Banow
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1909
Birth Year: abt 1879
Birth Location: Russia
Birth Location Other: suwalk
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Hebrew
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Arabic

Andy

The Cassell Banov in Ohio in 1910 is a pawn broker. The retail jeweller job description is for the next person on the census record.

Against Banov it states that he arrived in the USA in 1892.

Yes, but research has stumbled upon Cassell Emile Banov again and i am determined to find out whats gone on.

Other members of my distant family started a tree on ancestry and they have his details in there too, unfortunately where they got their info from i will never know as we are not a close family.

I will wait for my certs see what they show up.

TIA

Andy, thank you, why could i not find that i have full membership for ancestry

Thank you so much i will look at that.

Thanks Jonesey wonky eyes its 1am here :(

Louisa

Something to check out in 1911 census (don't have sub)

HOUSEHOLD BANO FANNY F 1887 24 Manchester Lancashire

Andy

I wonder???

Name: Krescil Banov
Arrival Date: 19 Jul 1894
Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 11
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Russian
Port of Departure: Bremen
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Havel

Thank you all, i see on the one you gave me andy his name was spelt Banow, its been spelt a few ways, i never thought to check w as well as r and v, it states he was from England Manchester which ties in with everything else.

Thank you again.

Yes i did see that Krescil one too and saved the record for future digging he he.

I will check 1911 census now.

Cheers.

Andy Bingo, you are an absolute superstar,

Thank you so much,

She is living with her parents registered as

Hyman Goldberg Aged 54
Ida age 43
Fanny Banow / Banor / Banov (v, w, r all looksimilar)
Minnie
Alter
Lena

They were waterproof garment makers, which ties in with what my dad said, plus it says next to Fanny's name married 5 years, 3 chldren living 0 children dead.

Lots of info now to go on.

Thank you, once again you are all ace.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Fanny Banov Name: Fanny Banov
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1887
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1974
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Lancashire, Greater Manchester
Volume: 38
Page: 0558

Andy

so these three children are theirs too

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
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BANOV Minnie Prestwich 8d 384

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Births Dec 1908 (>99%)
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Banov Morris Leon Prestwich 8d 292

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Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
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BANOV Rebecca Manchester 8d 223

It would certainly look like it, but why were they not on the census records submitted the night of the census, unless they were out of the house. Also a big gap between these 3 being born and then my grandad in 1919, grandads birth registered at 123 crescent road, which is a poor law infirmary i believe at that time.

I will have to check all this out now.

Thank you.

This looks like them with an incorrect age for Leon:

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD BUNOO FANNY F 1887 24 Manchester Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD BUNOO LEON M 1890 21 Manchester Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD BUNOO MINNIE F 1907 4 Manchester Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD BUNOO REBECCA F 1910 1 Manchester Lancashire


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