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the name whitehead granger appears but her last nmae on the GRO letter is granger

I now have her marrage certificate and her father doesnt appear on it.

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Death


Name: GRANGER, Joseph Henry
Registration District: Help Newham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1970
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth: 29 August 1912
Volume No: 5E
Page No: 1874

(this could fit in with Joseph, would be interesting to see his Birth Cert., details posted by Jan earlier in Thread)...

Chris :)

Thanks for the baptism information chris.

She was born in October, 1908.

Thanks

1911

BROWN, William Head Married M 45 1866 Farm Labourer Downham Cambs
BROWN, Annie Wife Married
22 years F 49 1862 March Cambs
BROWN, Eliza Ann Daughter Single F 20 1891 March Cambs
GRANGER, Edna Boarder F 2 1909 March Cambs

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9268 Reference:
RG14PN9268 RG78PN497 RD185 SD2 ED12 SN93

Registration District:
North Witchford Sub District:
March Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
March

Address:
Upwell Road March County:
Cambridgeshire

Chris :)

Thomas

Nothing obvious regarding month/s for Bertha E's birth.

The reference has a MAR included but that may not mean March.

Oh I will check A N Other birth refs and see if they include other months.

EDIT I'm a bit slow today. The MAR relates to March, Cambridgeshire.

Vera

Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 21

Month: Feb

Year: 1909

Forenames: Bertha Edna

Surname: Granger

Relationship: dau of

Father forenames:

Fathers occupation:

Mother forenames: Sarah Jane

Birth Day:

Birth Month:

Birth Year:

Abode: of Church Street March

Place: March, St Wendreda

County: Cambridgeshire
Cambridgeshire Family History Society

Chris :)


Parish Records Collection - baptism
Day: 11

Month: Mar

Year: 1888

Forenames: Sarah Jane

Surname: Granger

Relationship: of

Father forenames: Joseph

Fathers occupation: lab

Mother forenames: Sarah Jane

Birth Day: 30

Birth Month: Mar

Birth Year: 1883

Abode: otp

Place: March, St Peter

County: Cambridgeshire

MY last messages dont seem to be appearing :-S

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In 1911 Bertha is living with a Brown family as a baorder, which we kind of knew but the census confirmed for us who she was liviing with. but by this point shes appeared as Edna Granger, (the name she from now grew up with)

Thanks for your help

Sorry, I have to go out now but will try to look back later.

There is no Joseph Titmarsh in the correct area - so it looks like that Joseph Granger birth that has already been posted.

Looks like Srah Jane's mother is still in the same area until her death in 1928. This looks like her in 1911

HOUSEHOLD GRANGER SARAH F 1843 68 North Witchford Cambridgeshire

Living with these people?

HOUSEHOLD GRANGER FRED M 1909 2 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER HERBERT WILLIAM M 1896 15 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER IDA F 1876 35 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER TOM M 1871 40 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER WILLIAM M 1869 42 North Witchford Cambridgeshire


Who was Bertha with in 1911 please?

Thanks,

I have her birth certificate and i guess that she must have married an titmarsh.

If i am to look for her children would u search for joseph granger or joseph titmarch?

There seems to be one child born in 1923 from that Titmarsh / Granger marriage.

Name: Albert E Titmarsh
Mother's Maiden Surname: Granger
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1923
Registration district: Downham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 523


And possibly?

Name: Albert Edward Titmarsh
Birth Date: 1 May 1923
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1983
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 10
Page: 1617

Sorry - looking again at the 1901 it is a William Granger and his family living at The Causeway in 1901 and he also has a daughter Bertha but she is aged 8 years.

I might be going off at a tangent here but do you know whne Bertha's mother died please?

Could this be her marrying in 1917?

Marriages Sep 1917

Granger Sarah J Titmarsh Downham 4b 627
Titmarsh James W Granger Downham 4b 627



and her death?

Name: Sarah J Titmarsh
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1958
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Downham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 428



The above Sarah appears to have the same birth year as the Sarah that you have found on earlier census.

i.e this one?

1891

Name: Sarah J Granger
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Granger
Mother's name: Sarah J Granger
Gender: Female
Where born: Streatham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: March
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address: The Causeway


Registration district: North Witchford
Sub-registration district: March
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1301
Folio: 156
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Granger 47 Ag. Lab
Sarah J Granger 43
George Granger 12
Sarah J Granger 8
Mary E Granger 5
Bertha E Granger 5/12


The same Sarah in 1901 working as a Servant to the Bulter family who were also living at The Causeway in 1891. (Her parents are also still living at The Causeway in 1901)

Name: Sarah J Granger
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Stretham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: March
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address: The Causeway

Occupation: Domestic Servant


Registration district: North Witchford
Sub-registration district: March
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 1551
Folio: 136
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Butler 41
Alice Butler 40
William Butler 12
Arthur H Butler 8
Daisy Butler 7
Harold Butler 4
Evelyn Grace Butler 3
May Butler 1
Sarah J Granger 18

Yes, Thats the Birth Certificate, her mothers full name is Sarah Jane Granger.

Granger does apperas in the name section of the birth certificate for Bertha.

Is this the birth certificate which you have please?

Name: Bertha Edna W Granger
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1908
Registration district: North Witchford
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 480

If so what is her mother's full name on the certificate please? It looks as though Whitehead is a middle name?

Hello,,

No, for some reason i cant fi d Sarah j in the 1911 census.

Ive ordered the marrage sertifcates and its on its way.

Vera, does the search you did say which quater she was born? the one im looking for was born in october.

Thanks for your help.