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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Sep 2011 11:23

Finally found them in 1891 - what a mistranscription!!

Name: Albert Amos
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Owen
Mother's Name: Clona Owen
Gender: Male
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael All Angels
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 36b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 24
Folio: 115
Page Number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Owen 50 Gardener
Clona Owen 41
Albert Amos 8
Agnes J Amos 5 b. Acton
Osborne J Amos 1

Agnes and Osbourne should both have the surname Owen!

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 24; Folio 115; Page 55; GSU roll: 6095134

Births Mar 1886 OWEN Agnes Jessie Brentford 3a 133

Births Mar 1890 Owen Osborn John Kensington 1a 82
Deaths Jun 1891 OWEN Osborn John 1 Kensington 1a 123

jansmith

jansmith Report 7 Sep 2011 12:49

Do you know when Ivy died?

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 7 Sep 2011 12:53

And the marriage that Rootgatherer found:

Clara Everton
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Spouse Name: Thomas Owen
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 May 1878
Parish: St Matthew, Bayswater
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Thomas Everton
Spouse Father Name: John Owen

Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Matthew, Bayswater, Register of marriages, P87/MTW, Item 006

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 7 Sep 2011 12:56

And some details:

Thomas was a gardener. Address 14 Ackham Road, Westb... Street (I can't make out the end of the word). His father was a stone mason.

Clara lived at 31 Princes Square. Her father was a gardener.

Wits: F H Brooks and Mary Emily Sharpe.

Jill

Lexie

Lexie Report 11 Sep 2011 10:16

Thank you one and all

jansmith

jansmith Report 11 Sep 2011 13:05

Lexie do you have death index for Ivy as this may give you her birth date??

jansmith

jansmith Report 3 Oct 2011 19:46

wonder if this is Thomas' father? will see if i can find Thomas with him in earlier census
1881
Name: John Owen
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Father
Gender: Male
Where born: Wistanstow, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Stokesay
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: Post Office
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Occupation: Stone Mason

Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Groves 46 Occupation: Post Mistress widower
John Owen 77
Banjamin Owen 41 brother (wonder if that should be son)
Thomas Bradshaw 16 servant

Lexie

Lexie Report 11 Oct 2011 14:41

Can anyone help me find the parents of Thomas Owen b.1845 Wistanstow Shropshire he married Clara Everton in 1878 Kensington.I am still trying to trace Olive Murial Owen believed to be the sister of Ivy Lily Owen.I got the marriage certificate for Ivy Lily Owen and Angus Fretwell M. July 1923 and Olive Murial Owen was a witnes.Ivy Lily Owen was married in Holy Trinity church Hammersmith residence at time of marriage 41 Wharf Rd.I think that could be Islington.
Thank you

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Oct 2011 16:04

Could Olive have been Lily's sister-in-law? Do you have marriages for her brothers?

Can you confirm Lily's father's name and occupation for us from the marriage certificate please?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Oct 2011 16:18

???

1851

Name: Thomas Owen
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Owen
Mother's Name: Ann Owen
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Wistanstow, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Woolstone
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Church Stretton
Sub-registration district: Church Stretton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 1984
Folio: 142
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
John Owen 67
Ann Owen 42
Mary A Owen 20
Will Owen 18
Elizh Lucy Owen 16
John Owen 16
Edwd Owen 12
Benjm Owen 10
Thomas Owen 8
George Owen 6
Alice Ann Owen 4
Richard Hanner 5 Nephew

Lexie

Lexie Report 11 Oct 2011 16:31

Sorry cant help with the marriages of her brothers but i think it might be a good avenue to take.Lilys fathers name was Albert Amos Owen and he was born London.He was an iron worker.Thank you for your help

jansmith

jansmith Report 13 Oct 2011 18:59

don't think it has been posted 1911 for mother and brother

Address: 3 Martin St N Kensington
County: London

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
BROWN, Edwin Head Married M 29 1882 General Labourer Hampstead
BROWN, Agnes Wife Married
5 years F 25 1886 Acton
BROWN, Agnes Daughter F 4 1907 North Kensington
BROWN, Robert Son M 3 1908 North Kensington
BROWN, Florrie Daughter F 1 1910 North Kensington
OWEN, Clara Mother In Law Widow F 61 1850 Domestic Worcestershire
OWEN, Robert Brother In Law Single M 18 1893 General Labourer North Kensington

Lexie

Lexie Report 15 Oct 2011 13:16

Thank you all for your help it would seem that Olive Murial Owen either married George Owen b. 1915 brother of Ivy Lily or Robert Owen b.1893 brother of Amos Owen.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Oct 2011 13:41

Ivy's brother Albert (married after Ivy though) married an Olive.

Marriages Dec 1929

Dyer Olive M Owen Lambeth 1d 638
Jarvis Josephine E Whalley Lambeth 1d 638
Owen Albert R T Dyer Lambeth 1d 638
Whalley George Jarvis Lambeth 1d 638


???

Births Mar 1909 DYER Olive Muriel W.Ham 4a 416


Name: Olive Muriel Owen
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1908
Date of Registration: Oct 2000
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: East Surrey
Inferred County: Surrey
Register number: ESD1
District and Subdistrict: 7551D
Entry number: 217

Name: Albert R T Owen
Birth Date: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1951
Age at Death: 43
Registration district: Southend On Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 547

Lexie

Lexie Report 18 Oct 2011 12:57

Just found stuff on Olive Murial and Albert R.T. Owen cant thank you enough.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 19 Oct 2011 10:27

My pleasure Lexie.

Lexie

Lexie Report 25 Oct 2011 10:22

Hello yet again
I have looked and looked for the remaining family of John Owen b.1808 and Ann Owen 1810 Wistanstow Shropshire.Ann Owen d. in 1870 John Owen went to live with his daughter Elizabeth Lucy Groves [Owen ]as did his son Bejamin traced them untill 1911.Thomas Owen ended up in London married to Clara Everton.I am now left with the six other siblings can anyone help please.

Lexie

Lexie Report 25 Oct 2011 17:15

If someone could just point me in the right direction.I have searched family trees on Genes and ancestry.I have tried FBMD i have sent messages to people.How do you know if its the right Owens.Thank you

Lexie

Lexie Report 1 Nov 2011 12:33

Please could any one help me find marriages of Winifred H Owen born 1910 Kensington believed to have gone to Canada after her marriage and Beatrice F R Owen b June 1916 believed to have gone to South Africa after 2nd world war.Thank you

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Nov 2011 19:15

possible
Name: Beatrice F R Owen
Spouse Leonard G Stevens
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 639