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Here's the marriage for Charles and Alice Lucretia:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Charles Witty, bachelor of 18 William Street
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Alice Lucretia Ward, spinster of 42 Oakley Street
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1881
Parish: St Philip
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Charles Gilbert Witty < Brass Finisher
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Ward (deceased) Carriage Painter
Witnesses: Frederick John West and Mary Ann Baker

Can't make out Charles jnr occupation but in 1891 he's an ironmonger's assistant.

As said, never trust rellies memories!

That's not to say that then Charles Witty going to Australia wasn't related, just not the same bloke.

Thanks everyone for looking. He obviously has not got the X Factor. lol. x

I did see this Chas Witty but have not got subs to look. I can only say that the info given to me has come from someones memorys. x

1891 England Census
Jane Witty
Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Lambeth, London, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 390 Folio: 20 Page Number: 38
Jane Witty 49 widowed
Mary A Witty 22
Frederick Witty 16
Emma Witty 15
Herbert Witty 12
Ada L Witty 10
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 390; Folio 20; Page 38; GSU roll: 6095500.

Marriages Dec 1881
Ward Alice Lucretia Lambeth 1d 657
Witty Charles Lambeth 1d 657

Never believe anything that anyone tells you about ancestors without proof.

There ARE records of a Chas Witty arriving in Australia, apparently as a cre member.

BUT, if the marriage and census posted are your Charles then the one going to Australia is a different person.

Just put glasses on. The story is Charles Witty b 1842 was a master on clipper going to Australia his wife is Jane Bedford. I have this info from an elderly person. They had a son also called Charles Witty born 1863 who married Alice Lucretia Ward. Hope this makes sense. Thanks

1881:

WHITTY, Charles W Head Married M 39 1842 Valve Fitter (E&m Engnr) Holborn Middlesex
WHITTY, Jane Wife Married F 39 1842 Lambeth Surrey
WHITTY, Charles G Son Single M 18 1863 Porter Ironmonger Lambeth Surrey
WHITTY, Walter Son Single M 15 1866 Errand Boy Stationer Lambeth Surrey
WHITTY, Mary A Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Lambeth Surrey
WHITTY, Frederick Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Lambeth Surrey
WHITTY, Emma A Daughter Single F 5 1876 Lambeth Surrey
WHITTY, Herbert Son Single M 3 1878 Lambeth Surrey
WHITTY, Ada L Daughter Single F 0 1881 Lambeth Surrey
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Registration District: Lambeth
Civil Parish: Lambeth

Address: 18, William St, Lambeth County: London, Surrey

Deaths Sep 1882
Witty Charles Walter 40 Lambeth 1d 202

This is the couple from the 1862 marriage on the 1871 census:

WITTY, Charles W Head M 29 1842 Middlesex < Bradd Finisher, b Holborn
WITTY, Jane Wife F 29 1842 Surrey b Lambeth
WITTY, Charles G Son M 8 1863 Surrey
WITTY, Walter G Son M 5 1866 Surrey
WITTY, Mary A Daughter F 2 1869 Surrey
WITTY, Henry T Son M 0 1871 Surrey

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Registration District: Lambeth
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Municipal Borough: Lambeth

Address: 18 William St, Lambeth County: London, Surrey

His father John living in same multiple occupancy house

Hi no he did not settle in Australia and yes that is the marriage thanks

Brass finisher
1871 England Census
Charles W Witty Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Witty
Gender: Male Where born: Holborn, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road First
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 152 Piece: 648 Folio: 35 Page Number: 23
Charles W Witty 29
Jane Witty 29
Charles G Witty 8
Waller G Witty 5
Mary A Witty 2
Henry T Witty 8 Months
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 648; Folio: 35; Page: 23; GSU roll: 818939.

Chippie - is this meant to be the same Jane Bedford as in your original post, because father's name is different on marriage record.

Is this the right marriage?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Jane Bedford
Spouse Name: Charles Walter Witty < Brass finisher
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1862
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Samuel Bedford < Painter
Spouse Father Name: John Gilbert Witty < Painter

Address for both was Waterloo Road.
Witnesses: Geo Gib Witty and Edo ?? Powell

Firstly, have you found them on any census?

What was his occupation on marriage certificate?

Did he settle in Australia?

:-D

Charles Witty born 1842ish was said to be a master on a clipper going to Australia. I have no more info on him except he was born in Holborn and married to Jane Bedford. Is there any way of finding out if he was a master on a clipper. Thanks

Sorry I have taken so long to come back. Visitors arrived unexpected. Thanks for all help. Will have a look what you have found. x