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Passenger lists are going to be the death of me,Choccy! My eyes start crossing.

I really don't see the Empress of India arriving in Canada in 1922,though.

Best,
Maureen

couldn't see it for looking Maureen !

wow thanks Maureen this get more interesting.

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Julia HOPE
Date of departure: 21 July 1922
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Quebec
Destination country: Canada

Date of Birth: 1879 (calculated from age)
Age: 43
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: H Wife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 18
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Leonard HOPE
Ship: EMPRESS OF INDIA
Official Number: 144402
Master's name: Capt Webster
Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 12021
Registered tonnage: 9785
Passengers on voyage: 551

They go back to the UK
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Julia Hope
Name: Julia Hope
Birth Date: abt 1887
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 10 Aug 1927
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Empress of Australia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Australia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 145300
Traveling with Leonard,Arthur and James Thomas.
Going to 16 Valley Gardens Wembley.

thanks Choccy,your be in my thoughts today.Terry

Yes, mother Mrs J Hope in CANADA

(Haven't been able to find Julia Hope going out to Canada - perhaps someone else can find her)

sorry Choccy it says destination the home of her mother mrs J Hope,do you mean in Canada ?

sorry Choccy it says destination the home of her mother mrs J Hope,do you mean in Canada ?

coming back with husband and children - to 122 London Road, Wembley

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Florence Tidd
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 28 Aug 1924
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Minnedosa
Search Ship Database: View the 'Minnedosa' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 142717

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924

Name: Florence Tidd
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birth Place: Hammersmith, England
Age: 23
Date of Arrival: 14 Dec 1922
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Ship Name: Empress of France


Destination - 335 Brock Avenue, Toronto - the home of her mother, Mrs. J Hope

Thanks Choccy.

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Florence TIDD
Date of departure: 7 September 1922
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Quebec
Destination country: Canada

Date of Birth: 1899 (calculated from age)
Age: 23
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housewife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 6 of 22

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Frank TIDD (Engineer) aged 27

Joan TIDD aged 2

Roland TIDD aged 3


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Ship: EMPRESS OF SCOTLAND
Official Number: 144375
Master's name: J Gillies
Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific
Where bound: Quebec, Canada
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 25037
Passengers on voyage: 691

UK address - 59 Redfern Road, Willesden

marriage of Florence -


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005

Name: Florence C Cumming
Spouse Surname: Tidd
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1919
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 551
Find Spouse: Frank Tidd

No no please keep going ladies.

Uh-oh. We can't have that! Better stop now!

Maureen ;-)

ladies your surpasing yourselves now

good spot Maureen :-)

I like a consensus!

I did wonder where Horace/Arthur had gone to:


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Arthur Cumming
Name: Arthur Cumming
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 1 Oct 1927
Vessel: Montclare
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14738
***Lists Mother as Mrs J Hope 16 Valley Gardens Wembley

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928 about Arthur Horace Cumming
Name: Arthur Horace Cumming
Birth Place: England
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Father Name: Peter Cumming
Mother Name: Julia Sevine (sic)
Spouse Name: Eveline Florence Cottrell
Spouse's Age: 27
Spouse Birth Place: England
Spouse Father Name: William Cottrell
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Anne Wakelin
Marriage Date: 21 Jul 1928
Marriage County or District: York

Maureen

1911 - from the Enumerators list it looks like the Brown family were lodgers at No 1 Oak Road


355 BROWN, Walter Married M 28 1883 Hawker London Westminster VIEW
355 BROWN, Rainey Married
8 years F 25 1886 Middlesex Cricklewood VIEW
355 BROWN, Norah F 8 1903 School Middlesex Willesden VIEW
355 BROWN, Alma F 6 1905 School Middlesex Willesden VIEW
355 BROWN, Lenard M 4 1907 Middlesex Willesden VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7036 Reference:
RG14PN7036 RG78PN346B RD129 SD1 ED56 SN355

Registration District:
Willesden Sub District:
Willesden Enumeration District:
56 Parish:
Willesden

Address:
1 Oak Road Willesden County:
Middlesex

Horace is Arthur on the 1911 census

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
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Cumming Horace Arthur Kensington 1a 82


looks like Peter died -

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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CUMMING Peter Albert Fulham 1a 180


Deaths Dec 1901 (>99%)
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Cumming Peter Albert 1 Fulham 1a 156



here's James -

Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
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CUMMING James Thomas Fulham 1a 191





Edit - looks like Maureen beat me to it !

but at least we came to the same conclusion