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no we cant find anything my dad has found the will naming my grandads sister may hockemhill and a date were my grandad lived in 1941 21 beacham southport but thats i he has found out for me dowt it any use
thanks laura x

Hi Laura


Wel this looks like the marriage between JONATHAN ALDERSON and MARY BURGESS (James Douglas Birrell grandparents)

Marriages:

JONATHAN ALDERSON
Spouse: MARY BURGESS
Marriage: 28 NOV 1843 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M119901 1842 - 1845 1066766 Film 6900813 Film
Sheet: 00


However I am still not sure that any of the info is the correct family for you.

Have you got any Birth, marriage or death certs Laura ?


I will amend the 1861 census to show where born etc.

Barbara x

right i have gone over and over it and it seems to all work out and add up so im hopin it is the right one thanks again x

oh yer that would make more sense than fouglas. it is a strange one it just seems he has appeared out of no were. my dad has told me james came from scotland but that all he knows about his dad. i am hopin it is him just so we know somethin about him. x

Hi laura
I think the "fouglas" should have been DOUGLAS---as in the mothers first name---does that make more sense ? It has been mistranscribed on IGI.

I can't find James D. on the 1901 census. And I'm still not sure its the right James D for you on the other census !!!

Best wishes
Barbara x

this is such a odd family and very random girl called douglas and god knows how there grand parents can be called ALDERSON when the mother was called fouglas jezz lol
thank you for your help again i am very gratefull made up even if it a weird one lol x :-)

Maybe1911 census for James 1878 ??

1911 census transcription details for: 37 Victoria Street Landport

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN5561 RG78PN253 RD90 SD3 ED1 SN140


Reg. District: Portsmouth Sub District: Portsea and Landport
Parish: Portsmouth Enum. District: 1

Address: 37 Victoria Street Landport
County: Hampshire


Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

NEWLAND, Charles Head Married M 40 1871 Ship Plate Riveter Portsmouth Hamp
NEWLAND, Emily Wife Married 17 years F 40 1871 Eastmeon Hamp
NEWLAND, Florence Daughter Single F 15 1896 Corset Seamer Portsmouth Hamp
NEWLAND, Ethel Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Portsmouth Hamp


BIRRELL, James Boarder Single M 33 1878 Steam Engine Fitter Carlisle Cumb


JOHNSTON, James Boarder Single M 20 1891 App Steam Engine Fitter Springfield Dumfries

1851 census ?/

1851 Scotland Census 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Douglas Alderson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan Alderson
Mother's Name: Mary Alderson
Where born: Edinburgh, Midlothian
Parish Number: 685/1
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Andrew
County: Midlothian
Address: 5 High Terrace
ED: 11
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 13
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1851_180
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Alderson 36
Mary Alderson 28
James Alderson 6
Alexr Burgess Alderson 4
Douglas Alderson 2
Ann Alderson 5 MO
Isabella Fraser 19


Source Citation: Parish: Edinburgh St Andrew; ED: 11; Page: 10; Line: 5; Roll: 791; Year: 1851.


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1861 census ??Maybe why Douglas

1861 England Census 1861 England Census
Name: Douglas Alderson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan Alderson
Mother's Name: Mary Alderson
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Botchergate
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: Portland Place

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Piece: 3914
Folio: 85
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Alderson 46 ---Occ. Mail Guard Post Office--born Houghton Le Skerne, Durham, England
Mary Alderson 37 -----Berwick-Upon-Tweed
James Alderson 16 ----Scotland
Alexander Alderson 14 ----Scotland
Douglas Alderson 12 ----Scotland
Ann Alderson 10 ---Scotland
Thomas Alderson 8 ---Scotland
Douglas Burgess 70 --MOTHER IN LAW----Scotland

Could this be your james douglas birrell ?

1881 British Census

Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household


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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability

Jonathan ALDERSON Head W Male 66 Darlington, Durham, England Late Of The G O Super (Civ S No Occ)
Annie ALDERSON Daur U Female 30 Scotland Help At Home
Douglas BIRRELL Other W Female 32 Scotland Annuitant
Benjamin BIRRELL Grand Son Male 7 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Scholar
Jonathan A. BIRRELL Grand Son Male 5 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Scholar
>>>>> James D. BIRRELL Grand Son Male 3 Carlisle, Cumberland, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 16 Broad St
Census Place Rickergate, Cumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342245
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5158 / 11
Page Number 16

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James Douglas Birrell


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 MAY 1878 St Mary'S, Carlisle, Cumberland, England


Parents:
Father: James Birrell Family
Mother: Fouglas
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

I020801
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Not sure why a girl would be named Douglas but it seems like she was ?

Marriages Dec 1872

>>>>>>Alderson Douglas Carlisle 10b 876
>>>>>>>Birrell James Carlisle 10b 876
GRAHAM John Carlisle 10b 876
KENYON Elizabeth Carlisle 10b 876

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1871 census for Douglas (female)

1871 England Census 1871 England Census
Name: Douglas Alderson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan Alderson
Mother's Name: Mary Alderson
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Botchergate
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 128
Piece: 5217
Folio: 88
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Alderson 56
Mary Alderson 48
Alexander Burgess Alderson 24
Douglas Alderson 22 ---daughter
Ann Alderson 20


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5217; Folio: 88; Page: 25; GSU roll: 849462.

hi thanks for all your help.
i was wondering if any one could find anything out about his farther james douglas birrell born 1878 he is a tuff one he seems to have moved from carlisle scotland married ellen but before that it seems that he has to appeared if you could help with him i would be over the moon thanks x

birth: Burscough,? Lancashire
census: 1851 England


name: Ellen Eastham
age: 3
gender: F
birthplace: Burscough, Lancashire
relationship to head of household: Daughter
record type: Household

they appear to be most prevalent in Co.Antrim, Northern Ireland

if you go on to the free Mormon LDS wbsite - www.familysearch - and use the advanced search facility you will find a shedload of Birrell's - the vast majority in Lancashire :-)

any probs in using that site, just ask

looks like they were from Ireland originally



name: James Birrell
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 60
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Ireland
record type: Household
registration district: Ormskirk
sub-district: Scarisbrick
ecclesiastical parish: St Johns Burscough
civil parish: Burscough
county: Lancashire

name: James Birrell
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 10
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Burscough, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Ormskirk
sub-district: Lathom
ecclesiastical parish: St John
civil parish: Lathom
county: Lancashire

name: Joseph Francis Birrell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 12
birthplace: Burscough, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Ormskirk
sub-district: Lathom
parish: Burscough
county: Lancashire

name: Veronica Birrell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 5
birthplace: Burscough, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Ormskirk
sub-district: Lathom
parish: Burscough
county: Lancashire

name: James Birrell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 13
birthplace: Burscough, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Ormskirk
sub-district: Lathom
parish: Burscough
county: Lancashire

name: Margeret Birrell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 38
birthplace: Burscough, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Ormskirk
sub-district: Lathom
parish: Burscough
county: Lancashire

name: Joseph Birrell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 30
birthplace: Burscough, Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Birkenhead
sub-district: Birkenhead
parish: Birkenhead
county: Cheshire