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Lots of Germans who came to England at that time changed their names to sound something more "English".....but that would certainly be a reason to do so.

Edit: Anglicised!!! :-D

He may not have known his middle names and just thought it was the same as his fathers?

I know my gran did'nt know hers until she was about 50 and needed a passport so applied for her birth cert, to find she was'nt who she thought

jax

Well,I'm convinced. His father seems to have anglicised Rudolph to Ralph. So Frank Ralph Hubert Karrer seems good to me.

Here's the parent's marriage:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Rudolf Karren
Name: Rudolf Karren (sic) Occ:Publisher
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Conde
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Sep 1888
Parish: All Saints, Haggerston
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Rudolf Karren Occ:Publisher
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Conde Occ:Merchant

Maureen

I am convinced too Maureen

All credit to you! ;-)

No doubts in my mind either :-D

jax

You two are easy!!! :-D :-D

Thank you.

Maureenxx

I just wish i had remembered the word "Anglicised" when i needed it! :-D

Ha! I had to google it to make sure I wasn't mangling the spelling too much. :-D :-D

Maureen

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Ann Conde
Name: Mary Ann Conde
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1867
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 169





London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Mary Ann Conde
Name: Mary Ann Conde
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1867
Baptism Date: 3 Dec 1867
Father's Name: Frederick Conde
Mother's Name: Harriet Conde
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haggerston St Columba
Borough: Hackney



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Mary A Karrer
Name: Mary A Karrer
Birth Date: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Ware
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 763



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Rudolf E E Karrer
Name: Rudolf E E Karrer
Birth Date: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Ware
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 763

It makes you wonder who the informant on the death certs was.

Since Frank was the only surviving son............

It's a shame that there doesn't seem to be a will listed for either of them.

Maureen

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Emily Conde
Name: Emily Conde
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1861
Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1861
Father's Name: Frederick Conde
Mother's Name: Harriet Conde
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthias
Borough: Tower Hamlets


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Harriet Conde
Name: Harriet Conde
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1864
Baptism Date: 7 Aug 1864
Father's Name: Frederick Conde
Mother's Name: Harriet Conde
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Deaths Mar 1917 (>99%)
Karrer Percy 21 Lambeth 1d 470

Hi

Someone just had the idea that could the Farrer family have been living in Malta before Frank went into the army?

Be really grateful if someone could look this up for me

Thanks
Chris

On the 1911 he was based in Malta in the army but his parents were in London

jax

Hope I am not repeating this. I put message up and now cannot find it.
Can someone look up if the Farrers were living in Malta before Frank went into the army? Someone just suggested this to me

Thanks
Chris

Chris

Your post is there

Who suggested they were living in Malta?

Do you not think what has been found is correct?

jax

Hi Chris

What is it about the information we have found for you........that makes you think it is incorrect?

So sorry I had not seen this 2nd page - do feel stupid.
Franks grandson suggested Malta but the more I have read your posts the more I feel you could be right. There seems to be no other explanation.
I need to put all the info you have all given me into a tree format so I can physically see this and the changes they made
I will come back and let you know how I get on

Thanks again
Chris

No worries Chris.

You are not the only one to miss that there is sometimes more than one page of information.

Let us know how you get on!

PH. x :-)

I am convinced... Grandson is convinced.... well done everyone!

Now how can I find out more about Rudolf Karrer born in Germany?

I only have ancestry uk - is it possible to trace German records?

Thanks again
Marvelous job

Chris x