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Hi everyone who helped me last night.

Just wanted to say a big thank you for all the help with this lady. I disappeared ( comp problem)and wouldn't like to appear ungrateful for all the new info.

Best wishes

Margaret

just putting these bits of info in for building a general picture

Wadsley Hall was also the home of her grandfather John Fowler according to the newspaper marriage announcements

Yes she is the wrong one.

Wadsley hall is where her Aunty Annie Fowler lived.

Maryb

there is also this birth rather than baptism as the one on the previous page but a year earlier but same place and parents (it is a submitted record)

Ada Mary Barbara Holmes
Event(s): Birth:
30 SEP 1864 Wadsley Hall, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: Henry Tuke Holmes
Mother: Mary Fowler

this I would guess is the matching birth reg. Do you have her birth cert?

Births Sep 1864 (>99%)
HOLMES Ada Mary Sheffield 9c 402

sorry coming into this thread perhaps a bit late and misreading one of two things

has everyone come to the conclusion that the Ada Margaret born Kendal district (ie Milnthorpe) is the wrong one?

Hi LancashireAnn.
The girl above Adelaide was born in Sussex so they just put dots/ditto underneath her,thats why i thought it could be the same person.

Parents of John Shafto Barry 1862 were Thomas Posgrove barry born @ 1834 Scarborough and Harriette Shaftoe 1839 Yorkshire married 1860.

Thomas was a bulider 1834-1908 left £15,382 to widow Harriette Barry.
Harriette died 1926 left £5,543 to her spinster daughter Louisa Isabel Barry born Cleveland 1864. She died 1941

Maryb.

to confirm a maiden name of Fowler

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)
Fowler Mary Wortley 9c 264 Scan available - click to view
Holmes Henry Luke Wortley 9c 264

There are several announcements in the newspaper of the marriage of Captain of the Royal Lancashire Artillery Militias Henry Tuke Holmes to Mary Fowler at Wadsley church

I don't have access to view the 1881 image, but I wonder if the girl listed above Adelaide was born in Sussex and the Enumerator, or Transcriber has just written the same pob?



Margaret, when you say in your 1st post.......


"The 3 infos I can find come with a variety of names but I know they are the right ones.

BIRTH: Ada Margaret Holme
1871: Ada B M Holmes living with parents in Wacton Norfolk
1891: Barbara Holmes staying with her Mothers sister, Annie Fowler, in Ecclesfield"


Did you buy that birth certificate, or are you assuming the M in Ada's name stands for Margaret because you found that birth registration?

1881??
Hampshire Christchurch D 15 > 30
Adelaide B M Holmes 16 scholar.
But it says born Sussex!!

Maryb

for info

Burrows place of birth could also be Burrow, Kirkby Lonsdale which is in Kendal reg district

From Lancashire BMD.

Barbara Mary Holmes b1864. Mother's maiden name Fowler......


Birth Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Region Reference Order On-line
HOLMES Barbara Mary FOWLER 1864 Tunstall Preston Lancashire TUN/2/50


Where did you get the name Margaret from? Have you found any record for Ada with that name?

Hi Christine.

Yes v strange as I have found her probate and her name is now Ada Barbara MARY Barry and probate is to her husband John Shafto Barry. Every piece of info is a different name. Mary was her mother's name.

Margaret

Jonesey has a thread on how to access those records and he explains it far better than I could possible do.

Here is the link.......

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1232629

Could this be her birth registration??

Births Dec 1864 (>99%)
Holmes Barbara Mary Lancaster 8e 555


In all the above records her name is shown as Mary, not Margaret.

Hi Christina

Well Ecclesfield is where her Mother came from and where she was staying with her Aunt in a census.

How do you find the newspaper article? Do you have to belong to something?

Margaret

This may be when Ada met her husband....

ECCLESIASTICAL NEWS .
The Yorkshire Herald, and The York Herald (York, England), Thursday, April 05, 1894 .........

Rev. John Shafto Barry to the curacy of Ecclesfield.

Could also explain their varying addresses.

Found this on the Lancashire Libraries site, Online Reference Libraries, 19th Century British Library Newspapers.

There are also several articles on Henry Tuke Holmes.

1911 mentioned above
BARRY, John Shafto Head Married M 49 1862 Clergyman Established Church Allahabad India VIEW
BARRY, Adelaide Mary Barbara Wife Married
12 years F 45 1866 Boro Westmoreland VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4831 Reference:
RG14PN4831 RG78PN208 RD71 SD2 ED19 SN253

Registration District:
Eastbourne Sub District:
Eastbourne Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Eastbourne

Address:
29 Hyde Gardens Eastbourne County:
Sussex

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BARRY, Adelaide Mary Barbara
Address: 29 Hyde Gardens Eastbourne

BARRY, John Shafto Head Married M 49 1862 Clergyman Established Church Allahabad India VIEW
BARRY, Adelaide Mary Barbara Wife Married
12 years F 45 1866 Boro Westmoreland VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4831 Reference:
RG14PN4831 RG78PN208 RD71 SD2 ED19 SN253

Registration District:
Eastbourne Sub District:
Eastbourne Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Eastbourne

Address:
29 Hyde Gardens Eastbourne County:
Sussex

could this be joyce
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
MarriageFinder™: Joyce M S Holmes married Reginald E Bennett Help
Name: HOLMES, Joyce M S
Registration District: Help Kensington
County: London
Year of Registration: 1922
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Bennett
Volume No: Help 1A
Page No: Help 428

Name: BENNETT, Reginald E
Registration District: Kensington
County: London
Year of Registration: 1922
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Scott-Holmes
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 428
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Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
Holme Ada Margaret Kendal 10b 640

Hi

Many thanks to everyone who has helped me with this.

best wishes

Margaret