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actual birth dates
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drummo | Report | 25 Oct 2011 20:17 |
If i know the year and the quarter of someones birth is there any way i or someone on here can get the actual birth date without buying expensive birth certificates. The period in question is early 1900s |
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GlitterBaby | Report | 25 Oct 2011 20:21 |
Might depend on location |
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MarieCeleste | Report | 25 Oct 2011 20:22 |
Highly unlikely, unless it's in an area where there are baptism records and the actual birth date also just happens to be recorded on it. |
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drummo | Report | 25 Oct 2011 20:23 |
The area i am looking for is Sunderland Durham in 1906 |
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jax | Report | 25 Oct 2011 20:23 |
Not normally. if they died after 1969 it maybe recorded on the death reg. |
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mgnv | Report | 25 Oct 2011 23:04 |
You can try searching at |
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drummo | Report | 26 Oct 2011 09:24 |
Thanks done the f/search nothing found for 1906 |
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AnnCardiff | Report | 26 Oct 2011 10:32 |
care to give us details in case someone can help? |
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drummo | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:06 |
Thomas William Metcalf b-1906 Q-March Sunderland and Thomas W pallas registered 1927 as a late entry for 1906 Q-March (according to freeBMD)Sunderland |
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jax | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:15 |
Name: Thomas William Pallas |
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Dea | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:21 |
1911 - Looks like he probably took on Step-father's name: |
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drummo | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:22 |
Yes i have that but a name change at 21 from Metcalf to Pallas in 1927 is my qestion .I beleive he would be too old for adoption at 21 and was wondering if they are the same person why wait till then to change his name .His mother did marry Robert Pallas in 1909 after Thomas William Metcalf was bornin 1906 and they are together in 1911census. |
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Dea | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:26 |
Robert's Army records show that he married Margaret Metcalf and that their son Thomas William's date of birth was 2nd December, 1905. |
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jax | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:27 |
Name: Thomas William Metcalf |
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mgnv | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:32 |
Don't confuse the date at which stuff was rego'ed with when it actually happened - you've already seen jax's post showing a 1905q4 birth that was rego'ed in 1906q1. My guess is he changed his surname soon after birth, but no one bothered abt re-rego'ing the birth until 1927, when they fished his b.cert out for something or other and realized they'd not changed it. |
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drummo | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:34 |
I am almost convinced they are the same person.I will be checking the birth date of Thomas William Metcalf in 1905-1906 in parish records at my local library but I do not think there will be a record for Thomas W Pallas If i send for a birth certificate of him do i state 1906 or 1927 |
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Dea | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:40 |
I wonder if it has anything to do with adoption becoming legal in 1927! |
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drummo | Report | 26 Oct 2011 14:45 |
That would explain it .Idid not know that it looked obvious Metcalf became Pallas after his stepfather but records of birth appear to show 2 people born |
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mgnv | Report | 27 Oct 2011 18:14 |
Makem - no, I don't think it does. |
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drummo | Report | 27 Oct 2011 19:26 |
Hi mgnv. I do think that after his mother Margaret Metcalfs marriage to Robert Pallas in 1909 he automaticaly was known as a Pallas, I was just wondering why it was not made official till 1927.The death record which jax gave me above also stated his birth as 2-12-1905 which matches the army record of stepfather Robert supplied by dea, hopefully when i go and check the Metcalf birth at my library that also matches.If it was not an adoption maybe he changed his name for work reasons or maybe Robert is actually the real father but befor they decided to wed i really dont think i will find the true reason as on his marriage certificate in 1934 i'll bet fathers name is Robert Pallas |
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