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His birth may simnply not have been registered. Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering.

And there may not have been a marriage...........

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
Colebrook James W. Ham 4a 319
Cosburn Ellen Amelia W. Ham 4a 319
Sharpe Ada W. Ham 4a 319
Tapp Alfred W. Ham 4a 319

Thank you to all who sent in info. New to this so forgive if I'm slow to reply. More information I perhaps should have given; Alfred born in Betchworth given as London although I can only find a Betchworth in Surrey. Wife is Rose and they had 7 children. Lived 3 Foundry Place. All to be found in 1911 census. But, I cannot find any birth or marrige records of Alfred so cannot find Rose's surname or further relatives. That is my problem. Have looked up variations of spelling, Jupp, Japp, Yupp but still no luck. Any suggestion please?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Ada May Yapp
Name: Ada May Yapp
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 3 6 1901
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1901
Father's Name: Alfred George Yapp
Mother's Name: Ada Yapp
Parish or Poor Law Union: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Name: William George Jupp
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1900
Baptism Date: 24 Jan 1900
Father's Name: Alfred George Jupp
Mother's Name: Ada Jupp
Parish or Poor Law Union: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Ada May Yapp
Name: Ada May Yapp
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1901
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1901
Father's Name: Alfred George Yapp
Mother's Name: Ada Yapp
Parish or Poor Law Union: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Name: Alfred Victor Tapp
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1897
Baptism Date: 28 Oct 1897
Father's Name: Alfred George Tapp
Mother's Name: Ada Tapp
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Saviour
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

1871 England Census
about Alfred Jupp
Name: Alfred Jupp
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred Jupp
Mother's Name: Matilda Jupp
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea
Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Hanover Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 98
Piece: 95
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Jupp 41
Matilda Jupp 38
Frederic Jupp 10
Alfred Jupp 7
Edith Jupp 4
Ellen Jupp 2
James Jupp 5 Weeks
Edward Coleman 25
Henry Barrus 23

Name: Alfred V Yapp
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1968
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Hitchin
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 197

Name: Ada May Yapp
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1901
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1901
Father's Name: Alfred George Yapp
Mother's Name: Ada Yapp
Parish or Poor Law Union: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea

Next of kin on army records just Mrs Yapp and the mans address. 63 Upcarnel Rd Chelsea.

The sons WW1 Army record is on Ancestry
Name: Alfred Victor Yapp
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Chelsea
Birth County: London
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 488
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Number of images: 24
Alfred signed the attestation paper as Yupp

Alfred Victor's birth confirms the surname Jupp??

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
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Jupp Alfred Victor Chelsea 1a 402

Dea x

1901 she is now Ada??

YAPP, Alfred G Head Married M 37 1864 Horsekeeper
Pimlico VIEW
YAPP, Ada Wife Married F 27 1874
Streatham VIEW
YAPP, Alfred V Son Single M 3 1898
Chelsea VIEW
YAPP, William G Son Single M 1 (19 MOS) 1900
Chelsea VIEW

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Piece:
79 Folio:
22 Page:
36 Registration District:
Chelsea

Civil Parish:
Chelsea Municipal Borough:
Address:
47, Blantyre Street, Chelsea County:
London

if this is them he doesnt say born Surrey
1911 census

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YAPP, Alfred George Head Married M 45 1866 Horsekeeper Betchworth London VIEW
YAPP, Rose Wife Married
16 years F 38 1873 Streatham VIEW
YAPP, Alfred Victor Son M 13 1898 School Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, William George Son M 11 1900 School Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Ada May Daughter F 9 1902 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Rose Ellen Daughter F 7 1904 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Arthur Ernest Son M 5 1906 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Albert Edward Son M 3 1908 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, John Leanard Son M 1 1910 Chelsea London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
407 Reference:
RG14PN407 RG78PN13 RD4 SD2 ED10 SN561

Registration District:
Chelsea Sub District:
Chelsea South Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Chelsea

Address:
3 Foundry Place Chelsea S W County:
London

7 children 1 died

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Alfred V Yapp
Name: Alfred V Yapp
Spouse Surname: Cooper
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1085

Caroline Cooper

YAPP, Alfred George Head Married M 45 1866 Horsekeeper Betchworth London VIEW
YAPP, Rose Wife Married
16 years F 38 1873 Streatham VIEW
YAPP, Alfred Victor Son M 13 1898 School Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, William George Son M 11 1900 School Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Ada May Daughter F 9 1902 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Rose Ellen Daughter F 7 1904 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Arthur Ernest Son M 5 1906 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Albert Edward Son M 3 1908 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, John Leanard Son M 1 1910 Chelsea London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
407 Reference:
RG14PN407 RG78PN13 RD4 SD2 ED10 SN561

Registration District:
Chelsea Sub District:
Chelsea South Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Chelsea

Address:
3 Foundry Place Chelsea S W County:
London



I think he had the surname Jupp according to a tree on Ancestry

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
YAPP, Alfred George Head Married M 45 1866 Horsekeeper Betchworth London VIEW
YAPP, Rose Wife Married
16 years F 38 1873 Streatham VIEW
YAPP, Alfred Victor Son M 13 1898 School Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, William George Son M 11 1900 School Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Ada May Daughter F 9 1902 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Rose Ellen Daughter F 7 1904 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Arthur Ernest Son M 5 1906 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, Albert Edward Son M 3 1908 Chelsea London VIEW
YAPP, John Leanard Son M 1 1910 Chelsea London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
407 Reference:
RG14PN407 RG78PN13 RD4 SD2 ED10 SN561

Registration District:
Chelsea Sub District:
Chelsea South Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Chelsea

Address:
3 Foundry Place Chelsea S W

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Can you give us one of his childrens names and his wifes name please?