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Just reread your post. so John W born 1892 in Manchester.

Who were the witnesses on Joseph's marriage certificate?

Hi,

how old was John W in 1911 and where were the Turner boys born??


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1891 England Census
about Joseph Turner Name: Joseph Turner
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Turner
Mother's Name: Ann Turner
Gender: Male
Where born: Westhoughton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Hindley
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Hindley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3058
Folio: 62
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Turner 48
Ann Turner 38
John W Turner 21
Sarah A Turner 19
James Turner 17
Robert Turner 15
Thomas Turner 10
Peter Turner 11
Mary E Turner 9
Joseph Turner 5
Abraham Turner 3
Mogres Turner 1


Dee x

Hello all again
I've been looking into my granddads military record whilst their free on ancestry at the moment but as usual I can't find one for him I've got this
from his death record

Joseph Turner Manchester
Died 4/10/1917 France & Flanders
Lancashire Fusilers
(th battalion
service No 36348
Formerly 11403 Border Reg

on their enlisting records it tell you about their personal details

I've found other family members and their details but cann't find my grandad If anyone can help or tell me what I'm doing wrong it would be appreciated

Thank you










Hi just going over my tree and certificate etc
checking my granparents marriage certificate my granddad was Joseph Turner aged 20 a labourer in the Iron works his father was Thomas Turner a Farm Labourer deceased
they married in 1907 Manchester, I found my grandparents living in Manchester in 1911 and living with them was John W Turner brother.
I've a nasty feeling I've been following the wrong family as the family I've been following Thomas was a chimney sweep ???
I've checked BMD and Lancashire BMDs for Joseph and John W the trouble is the years I'm looking at 1888 & 1892 their are 2 for each in Manchester that look possibles
Is their any way of finding out their fathers name without getting the certificates