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In une qtr of 1901 she was in E stonehouse district popping out Wilfy - so presumably she's not too far distannt a few weeks before

Can't find her in 1901 either.

Maryb.

Christine says she was "married" in quotation marks, meaning, I think, that she wasn't legally married.

p.s. I've also had a pm from Christine and asked her to reply on the thread.

cant work this out! its frustrating me!

there is this marriage

Marriages Sep 1904
Kerr Robert Devonport 5b 695
Sanders Edith Devonport 5b 695


Are there two Robert Kerrs in Devonport area by 1911?

can anyone see her in 1891? - i dont have access to ancestry.

Where might she have been? anywhere between Devon & inverness I suppose! calling herself Mary/Mary Ann or Beatrice.......

My Pm's

1)Yes she did morph into Beatrice Kerr,because on myfathers birth cert for mother it says Beatrice Kerr formerly Mary ann Burlington.

2) In 1901 Mary Ann Burlington gave birth to illegitimate Wilfred Sidney,only above mother on birth cert no father.By the 1911 census Mary was "married" to Robert Kerr and calling herself Beatrice Kerr she still had Wilfred with her age 9 but calling him Kerr and robert and her by now had 4 children of their own the youngest of which was my father and on his birth cert for mother it say for mother Beatrice Kerr formerly Mary ann Burlington.

3)I have my father's birth cert,it says mother Beatrice Kerr formerly Mary Ann Burlington.He was born in Devonport as were his 3 siblings she had with Robert Kerr,before that she had an illegitimate son Wilfred in 1901.There are no records of where she went when she left workhouse and no Birth/marriage/Death certs??

4) Easy,My dad's birth cert clearly states""mother Beatrice Kerr FORMERLY Mary Ann Burlington""

PM from Christina. Have advised her to post replies onto here.

On the 1911 census Beatrice lied saying she was born in B'water because she was born in Wolborough Newton Abbott Workhouse(census 1881 age 6)Mary Ann Burlington, her sister(census1881 age 8)Florence was the one born in B'water,she had 2 little brothers also born in same workhouse as Mary(later calling herself Beatrice 1911 census)No idea what happened between btwn 1881/1911 with the exception of illegitimate birth in 1901.Would like to know how where when my grandmother died?No Birth/marriage and more importantly Death cert appear to exist?

Wilfred was born in the Durham area.

On the 1911 record the place of birth for children isn't filled in.

It states they had 6 children one died, married 9 and a half years

Maryb.

EDIT Wilfred Sydney Burlington born east stonehouse Devon 1901 died Islington 1964

Births Mar 1905 Kerr Gladys Catherine Devonport 5b 281
Births Sep 1906 Kerr Robert Henry Devonport 5b 290
Births Mar 1908 Kerr Roland David Devonport 5b 278
Births Dec 1910 KERR Reginald Devonport 5b 283


Where is the birthplace of the Wilfried on the 1911 census please?

Christine Anne has the other members of the Burlington family in the workhouse in her tree.

If she would only come back and tell us exactly what info she has.

No marriage of a Robert D Kerr as yet,only his death in 1936,their son Roland 1908 was Roland David Kerr.

Maryb.

I did send Christine a message to look at her thread but it hasn't been opened yet

Still not clear why there is thought to be a name change at all- unless I am missing something, quite possible.
Jan

I'm just wondering if all the Burlington/Burrington in 1881 workhouse are related.
Especially as Beatrice and Robert had son Roland which seems to be a bit uncommon.

Ive tried to follow them to see the reason for Mary Ann/beatrice's name change.

Sorry to confuse anybody but like it has been said,feedback from the poster would help.

Maryb.

Penny, I am confused totally by this! We need feedback don't we.
Jan

we still dont know why Mary Ann supposedly morphed into Beatrice!

I'm not sure what you are saying Mary?
Jan

On same 1881 census Jane Burlington @ 1849 unmarried born Frome Somerset.
Florence Burlington born @ 1873 Bridgewater Somerset.(Same as Beatrice on 1911 census).
Roland 1877
Francis henry 1879 born Newton Abbott Devon

Rowland Burrington died age 10 1887 Newton Abbott.

Mary Burlington born @ 1876 died Newton Abbott 1955

Maryb

Wilfred's birth?

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
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BURLINGTON Wilfred S E. Stonehouse 5b 266
BURLINGTON Wilfred S Burlington E. Stonehouse 5b 266

Why do you think Beatrice and Mary Ann are the same person?
What is shown as her maiden name on your father's birth certificate?

Gwyn

Possible for Robert in 1891 - occupation same as in 1911; all born Bromley, except Robert Snr - born Scotland:

1891 England Census
about Robert Kerr
Name: Robert Kerr
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Kerr
Mother's Name: Catherine Kerr
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, London, England

Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows (Bow Common)
Town: Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 322
Folio: 79
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Kerr 48
Catherine Kerr 46
Robert Kerr 21
Henry Kerr 14
Elie M Kerr 8
David Kerr 6
Jane Kerr 4