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Have you checked the Scottish census on Ancestry just in case they went back

yes, also thought of that too! Thanks tho

Hi
A merry Christmas to you too tashnben

Could Grace have re- married by 1891 and moved back to Scotland ? (I can't see an English marriage so maybe in Scotland) All the childrens first names and birth years seem to match SorryI can't view the image on Ancestry.

1891 Scotland Census
about Grace Simpson Name: Grace Simpson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Charles Simpson
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 12 Orchard St
ED: 83
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1891_288
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Simpson 53
Grace Simpson 39
John Simpson 18 --glasgow
Martha Simpson 15 --Rochdale, Lancashire
Janet Simpson 13 ---Rochdale, Lancashire
Anna Simpson 11 --Pendleton, Lancashire
Annie Simpson 10 --(-Wonder if age should be 10 months ) Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire



Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Govan; ED: 83; Page: 1; Line: 2; Roll: CSSCT1891_288; Year: 1891

Barbara x

Good one, Barbara! I failed in my attempt to find anything.

That does look good!!

There's a marriage on Scotland's People :
1 1885 SIMPSON CHARLES WRIGHT GRACE GORBALS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/12

Maureen

I was about to post - when I lost the internet connection - that I think Barbara is (W)right - sorry! - except I suspect Annie is actually 10 and is Charles' own daughter (why would they have a child together and call her Annie when they already have an Anna

Good finds Barbara and Maureen!

Married 1885? But first hubbie died 1886?

Oh heck,Marg. Quit making sense!

I wonder if 1886 is a guess or firm fact?

Maureen

Thanks Margee , it took me a while to find them,
I wish I could view the image to see if the children had been transcribed right !!

Best Wishes
Barbara x

TashnBen have a tree on Ancestry and the death in 1886 is unsubstantiated...it's too much of a coincidence for the ages and places of birth to match as well as their given names. It really needs someone with credits to Scotlandspeople to have a look at the document rather than the transcript. The Wright children have to be step-children

And here she is in 1881...
Name:Annie Simpson
Age:1
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1880
Relationship:Daughter
Father's Name:Charles Simpson
Mother's name:Isabella Simpson
Gender:Female
Where born:Linwood, Renfrewshire
Registration Number:568
Registration district:Kilbarchan
Civil parish:Kilbarchan
County:Renfrewshire
Address:17 Redan
ED:9
Household schedule number:71
Line:8
Roll:cssct1881_169
Household Members:
Charles Simpson 43
Isabella Simpson 38
Catherine Simpson 10
Charles Simpson 7
Isabella Simpson 3
Annie Simpson 1

Yes, how I wish that Ancestry would let us see the originals of the Scotland censuses. I never rely on transcribed versions, always want to look at the originals. I wonder if there'a a site that lets you see them?

Hey, Maureen, don't I always make sense? NOT!

You need credits on Scotlandspeople

Jude

Well, I had a few credits on SP that I haven't got any use for at present. Nosiness got the better of me!

I'll send the originals to tashnben.

1891 census:
Annie is most definitely 10.
Charles is a labourer/engineer. John a Railway Engine Cleaner. Martha is a Cloth Capper and Janet a Machine Stitcher.

Marriage 23/01/1885:
Charles (widower) a ploughman. Son of Charles Simpson (ploughman) and Mary McArthur (both deceased)

Grace (widow), former loom weaver. Daughter of Thomas Bathgate (draper maker) and Martha Buchanan (both deceased).

Good one Jude, wonder why I didn't think about Annie being his daughter !!

The marriage looks good too Maureen---(i looked from 1886 and missed it lol !!)





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Barbara x

Thank you MarieCeleste, Nosiness was getting the better of me too, lol !!

I was just of to buy credits for SP when i saw your post. :-)

Thanks again

Barbara x

How nice of you,MC!!!

Marg-even when you don't make sense you make sense to me!

Best wishes to all,
Maureen :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Am not seeing an obvious death for William Wright .....

No I had a nose too...nothing in Lancashire that matches age between 1881 and 1885. Wonder if they moved back to Scotland before he died? And then that's how she met Charles?

Season's Greetings to one and all!

Jude