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Mary



many illegitimate children added the name of a "father" to their marriage certificates ....... it looked better for the in-laws.

Sometimes they said the father was deceased .... thus providing a good reason for him not attending the wedding

Other times they used the name of a real person ..... grandfather, uncle, family friend, local dignitary,

or they made up a name.



If, as you say, there is no name of the father on the birth certificates for the girls, then it is more than likely that they were illegitimate.

and thus that Martha made up the name.




sylvia

Thank you AnnCardiff. Do you have the names of the household for Martha Mills, age 15 in Llandyssil in 1901?
Mary

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1881

John MILLS Head M Male 59 Bettws, Montgomery, Wales Gardener (Dom)
Sarah MILLS Wife M Female 50 Welchpool, Montgomery, Wales
Price MILLS Son U Male 26 Welchpool, Montgomery, Wales General Laborer
Mary Jane MILLS Daur Female 14 Welchpool, Montgomery, Wales Scholar
Thomas MILLS Son Male 11 Welchpool, Montgomery, Wales Scholar
Ann MILLS Daur Female 7 Welchpool, Montgomery, Wales Scholar
Sarah COLLINS Niece Female 1 Welchpool, Montgomery, Wales


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Source Information:
Dwelling Chestnut Cottage
Census Place Pool, Montgomery, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342320
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5494 / 65
Page Number 16

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1881

John MILLS Head M Male 65 Llanfair, Montgomery, Wales Hostler
Elizabeth MILLS Wife M Female 58 Llanfair, Montgomery, Wales Hostlers Wife
Mary MILLS Daur U Female 15 Llanfair, Montgomery, Wales General Serv Domestic


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Source Information:
Dwelling Chapel Row
Census Place Llanfair Caereinion, Montgomery, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342320
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5495 / 9
Page Number 12

name: Sarah A Mills
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 16
relationship to head of household: Servant
birthplace: Newtown, Montgomeryshire
record type: Household
registration district: Newtown
sub-district: Kerry
ecclesiastical parish: Sarn Holy Trinity
civil parish: Kerry
county: Montgomeryshire

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name: Mary E Mills
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 35
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Welshpool, Montgomeryshire
record type: Household
registration district: Gateshead
sub-district: Winlaton
ecclesiastical parish: Winlaton St Pauls
civil parish: Winlaton
county: Durham

welcome to the boards by the way :-D

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name: Marth Mills
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 15
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Dolfor, Montgomeryshire
record type: Household
registration district: Forden
sub-district: Montgomery
ecclesiastical parish: Llandyssil St Tyssil
civil parish: Llandyssil
county: Montgomeryshire

I am looking for Mary Mills fro Montgomeryshire, in the 1880s. She had two daughters, Sarah Ann b 1884 and Martha b1885, both born on Black Hill, near Newtown, Montgomery. There is no father's name on either birth certificate but the name William Mills (deceased) appears on Martha's marriage cert in 1904. Neither daughter is with her mother at the time of the 1891 census (they are being looked after by a family called Pugh, on Black Hill), or in subsequent censuses. I do not have birth or death dates for Mary and I cannot find a suitable marriage.

Please can anyone help?

Mary