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Thank you so much for that i don't have credits to view so i only saw
Ellen Eddens status but it did say about children alive and deceased
so i don't know which child that was .Now all i need to find is what happened to him after 1911 and when he died .Once again thanks much appreciated .I wonder if he stayed single or maybe joined the army .Do you know how i find out if James did join The Army . :-)


Maags

1911 for clarity

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SMITH, Ellen
Address: Couldwell Farm Bitteswell Lutterworth


SMITH, John Head Married M 58 1853 Waggoner On Farm Northampton Woodford VIEW
SMITH, Ellen Wife Married
37 years F 59 1852 Domestic Work Northampton Eydon VIEW
SMITH, James Son Single M 32 1879 Labourer Northampton Eydon VIEW
GARNER, Cyril Grandson M 5 1906 School Yorkshire Wath VIEW
GARNER, Enid Granddaughter School Yorkshire Wath VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18904 Reference:
RG14PN18904 RG78PN1130 RD398 SD1 ED3 SN45

Who did you say you were you looking for?

Hi

sorry it did appear jumbled right .......James thomas Smith born 1883 Eydon .Parents John Smith born 1854 woodford Halse & Ellen Edden
born 1851 Eydon .James had 7 siblings .I cannot find James anywhere after 1901 as you see from the above threads i thought i had but i had
been looking at the wrong James !!. I know he was in Stratford on Avon
in 1891 as my grandad was born there ,In 1901 he was with Ellens
brother William Edden In Kings Norton ,I cannot find him in 1911
but on Ellen in 1911 census she is in Bitteswell it says 7 children alive
1 deceased .I am sure i can account for all now except James so i
am looking to see if i can find him .

Mags

Margaret, could you clarify exactly who is your known ancestor (with documented proof) that you are working back from?

Hi all

well i was barking up the wrong tree with Elah etc no relation to my Everlyn Clarke & James Smith .James born 1882 eydon .I have found James 1891 Stratford on avon on census 1901 Kings Norton With a william edden who was his uncle but nothing for 1911 .also found that his mother Ellen was on 1911 census as having 7 children living 1 deceased
so wondering if James died before 1911 .

thanks all for help
Mags :-(

Never take info from someone's tree as being correct until you've checked it out.

Hi Sylvian

Sorry didn't mean to ignore you i know what you are saying about ordering a certificate and i think thats what i will have to do .The other thread was
on because i had Elah with Mr Kendal and searched through trees found
someone with her in tree so messaged as i was looking for information on daughters !!! but when i got reply Elahs parents not right and siblings more than my Elah .Thanks for help i do appreciate everyones , ;-)
I Have Marriage of Evelyn Clarke & James Smith Lutterworth 1912
and Siblings Henry Victor & Thomas ? but can only find 1 Elah thats
not right . :-|

Thanks to all

BUY the certificate!!!

Margaret you say that the marriage to Kendall is wrong one, yet you have another thread asking


"Can anyone help with information on the daughters of

Sidney Kendall
Elah Smith born 1915"

????

:-D :-D

Don't worry about it, Sylvia......some people see only the posts they want to.............

However ..............


I might just be the invisible woman, as Margaret has not acknowledged any of my postings! :-D

I cannot see any other possibility than for Margaret to buy the birth certificate for Elah


we're all just going round in circles and wasting time!



The matter can be solved in less than 5-7 working days if Margaret is in the UK

2-3 weeks if she lives overseas.


and the certificate only costs £9.25 no matter where you live!




sylvia

There is another thread about this woman.......................

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards.page/board/living_relatives/thread/1289593

Try looking for a death with an alternative spelling for the woman's name

Sorry meant to say Henry Victor & Thomas were her siblings .

James Thomas Smith married a Everlyn H clarke Lutterworth 1912

if children above are theirs why no Elah .As i said i thought i had found her but information on parents & birthplace not right Help who would be a Smith


Mags :-( :-(

Margaret


You cannot avoid buying the birth certificate


you are going round in circles!




sylvia

Hi Andrew
Have just contacted my cousin in NZ and she says siblings are right as far as she knows but saying Everlyn Clarke & James Thomas Smith Parents ,

Siblings Henry ,Victor &James
Mags

I think you need to buy her birth certificate ...... and get the correct names of her parents!

Thta tree on ancestry says the parents of Elah May Smith are Tom Smith and Eliza Jane Clarke

and her grandparents (ie, parents of Tom Smith) are Ephraim Smith and Catherine Wright



which is not what you are saying.



The ONLY way ot be sure is to buy the certificate

go to http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

You have to sign up, but it is free.


Follow instructions for birth certificate, using information EXACTLY as posted above and copied to here

ie,
Births Jun 1915

Smith Elah N - Clarke Lutterworth 7a 7



Answer YES when asked if you have the GRO Index (or Reference) Number ................ that's the 7a 7 at the end of the entry.


It will cost you £9.25, p&p included.





sylvia

Hi all

thanks for your replies & interest .Elah is female and i think the siblings
Victor .Henry ,Victor are right but the Elah mentioned married to a kendall i thought was right but after messaging a relative through here its not .
Elah's grandparents were John Smith & Ellen Edden and her parents were
i think James smith & Everlyn Clarke but i could be wrong on parents .

When you look at the original scan of the register for that 1915 birth I'm sure that it is actually Elah M. There is a white mark on the top right of the "M" which i think has caused it to be transcribed as "N". If you compare the other capital M's and N's on the register then you may see what I mean.

Origin and Meaning of the Name Elah

Gender: Both
Origin: Hebrew
Meaning: Oak tree

Can also mean pistachio tree or goddess.