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80th birthday suprise please help!!

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leesle

leesle Report 13 Jan 2012 08:18

thanks mary that looks right, for 1901 as she did have a brother george and a sister lily thats fantastic.

thanks to you all.

Mary

Mary Report 12 Jan 2012 18:19

1901 census with a Annie yates and brother George!!

1901 Golden Hill staffs
William Yates 36
Emily 35 born Wheelock Cheshire
Celia 12
George 1894 Cheshire
Annie 7 months Golden Hill Staffs.

1911 27,Forge Fields Wheelock Congleton
5 Children born 1 died.
Emily Yates 46 married and for 21 years born Sandbach Cheshire
Annie Yates age 10 Golden Hill Staffs
Lillie Yates 1905 Sandbach.

George Yates born @ 1894 sandbach Cheshire
Died in France 4/10/1918.
No 40613 Manchester reg
Formerly 1649 Cheshire reg.

1911 Woody Fields Farm Betchton Sandbach
George Yates 1894 Wheelock cowman on farm.

Maryb.

Mary

Mary Report 12 Jan 2012 17:56

???? Annie Elizabeth Ratcliffe born 11/1/1897 died Oct 1988 in Worksop Notts V8 P1420

Maryb.

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 17:47

1901
Annie is with them so not this family

Address: Stockery Farm, Davenport
County: Cheshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
YATES, John Head Married M 35 1866 Farmer
Astbury
Cheshire
YATES, Annie Wife Married F 35 1866
Bradwall
Cheshire
YATES, Edith Daughter Single F 7 1894
Davenport
Cheshire
YATES, Annie E Daughter Single F 4 1897
Davenport
Cheshire
YATES, Frank Son Single M 2 1899
Davenport
Cheshire
YATES, John F Son M 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Davenport
Cheshire
GALLIMORE, Clement Servant Single M 33 1868 Stockman On Farm
Smallwood
Cheshire
BEINE, Martin Servant Single M 27 1874 Agricultural Labourer
Ireland
MAYS, Herbert Servant Single M 37 1864 Teamster On Farm
Haslington
Cheshire
STREET, Ernest Servant Single M 15 1886 Milk Lad On Farm
Cranage
Cheshire
DODD, Martha Servant Single F 26 1875 Servant Domestic
Morton
Cheshire
DAVIS, Mary A Servant Single F 14 1887 Servant Domestic
Sandbach
Cheshire

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 17:43

so 1911 is this the right area
Address: Stockery Farm Davenport Holmes Chapel Cheshire
County: Cheshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
YATES, John Head Married M 45 1866 Farmer Astbury Cheshire
YATES, Annie Wife Married
18 years F 45 1866 Bradwall Cheshire
YATES, Edith Daughter Single F 17 1894 Farmers Daughter Dairy Work Davenport Cheshire
YATES, Annie Daughter F 14 1897 School Davenport Cheshire
YATES, Frank Son M 12 1899 School Davenport Cheshire
YATES, John Son M 10 1901 School Davenport Cheshire
YATES, Harold Son M 7 1904 Davenport Cheshire
YATES, Mary Daughter F 6 1905 Davenport Cheshire
BEBBINGTON, Thomas Servant Married M 23 1888 Farm Labourer Sproston Cheshire
JOHNSON, John Servant Single M 19 1892 Cowman On Farm Sandbach Cheshire
BRANDRETH, John Servant Single M 20 1891 Waggoner On Farm Crewe Cheshire
BLEASE, Frank Servant Single M 18 1893 Waggoner On Farm Holmes Chapel Cheshire
BRANDRETH, Nellie Servant Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Crewe Cheshire

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 17:38

a long shot but want to post incase!!
could this be their sister who married THORLEY, Thomas
SHAKERLY, Mary
Registration District: Help Congleton
County: Cheshire
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 8A
Page No: Help 361


?? had a daughter Annie who married

Marriages Jun 1893
Thorley Annie Congleton 8a 503
Yates John Congleton 8a 503

so Annie Yates in 1901 could be a great niece i think?

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 17:18

Surname could also be spelt Sharkey

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 17:10

they seem to be an old couple for to be their niece?

leesle

leesle Report 12 Jan 2012 17:04

Jan you are right with the spelling of it is near where the rest are from, thats really interesting, wonder if she lost her parents very young.

thanks

leesle

leesle Report 12 Jan 2012 16:59

I will, Im going to buy a few certs for him, we hope to find the burial place for Emily and John W. as he remembers from being a child they had no headstone.

But not exactly where it was.

thanks

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 16:57

1901 there is this

Reg. District: Congleton Sub District: Sandbach
Parish: Sandbach Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: Sandbach St Mary City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Bradwall Road, Sandbach
County: Cheshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
SHAKERLY, Hannah Head Single F 74 1827 Living On Own Means
Tetton
Cheshire
SHAKERLY, Jane Sister Single F 68 1833 Living On Own Means
Tetton
Cheshire
YATES, Anne Niece Single F 4 1897
Brereton-----not sure of this transcription for place of birth

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 16:55

I think you would need to get the Annie Yates 1921 marriage cert to be sure of finding the right family for her

leesle

leesle Report 12 Jan 2012 16:55

thanks, stupid me, I thought it was a horse related occupation that went with his other job, thanks Jan.

thanks to all

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 16:49

1911 Gardener
Reg. District: Congleton Sub District: Sandbach
Parish: Smallwood Enum. District: 1
Address: Smallwood Sandbach Cheshire
County: Cheshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
RATCLIFFE, John Clarke Head Married M 44 1867 Coachman And Gardener Congleton Cheshire
RATCLIFFE, Emily Wife Married
20 years F 42 1869 Elworth Cheshire
RATCLIFFE, John William Son Single M 11 1900 Smallwood Cheshire
RATCLIFFE, Henry Son Single M 8 1903 Smallwood Cheshire
RATCLIFFE, Arthur Son Single M 3 1908 Smallwood Cheshire
WALKER, George Boarder Single M 60 1851 General Labourer And Gardener Smallwood Cheshire


leesle

leesle Report 12 Jan 2012 16:47

Hi Jan, that death sounds about right thankyou

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Jan 2012 16:44

?? death index if this is the right area
RATCLIFFE, John W
Registration District: Help Crewe
County: Cheshire
Year of Registration: 1966
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 67
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 245

leesle

leesle Report 12 Jan 2012 16:05

thats amazing, I know what a coach man is, but what is a gardence??

thankyou

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 12 Jan 2012 15:53

Name: John Ratcliffe
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1867
Registration district: Congleton
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 260

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 12 Jan 2012 15:52

1911

Name: John Clarke Ratclife
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Congleton, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Arclid and Smallwood
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Spen Green Smallwood Sandbach Cheshire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coachman & Gardence
Registration district: Congleton
Registration District Number: 448
Sub-registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 21734
Household Members: Name Age
John Clarke Ratclife 44 Coachman & Gardence-Congleton, Cheshire, ?England
Emily Ratclife 42 Elsworth, Cheshire, England
John William Ratclife 11
Henry Ratclife 8 Smallwood, Cheshire, England
Arthur Ratclife 3 Smallwood, Cheshire, England
George Walker Boarder

leesle

leesle Report 12 Jan 2012 15:47

wow thanks so much everyone thats fantastic.

annie yates may have had a brother called george yates who was killed in france. And the ratcliffes (one of them) may have died on the ship HMS Renown.

thanks again, I will send a pm, Much appreciated