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Thanks Rose I will do that.

I think the best chance you have is to get that cert and hope the death was registered by someone in the family?

Unless you come across anyone else connected to the family who might have more info, which does sometimes happen,

Hi Mary-Rose,I have looked at photos sorry to say they are not the same person,my cousin who I went to see yesterday is a lady named Jean Matthews,who has made numerious comments on Romany Road,and put in a lot of photos on there,
Rose I have checked out the Violet death you put on for 1919,it could be her the only dout is it says abt 21,our Violet in question would of been 24,I know they made many a mistake with things in the old days,another I found which I thought may of been her daughter that died at about the same time was a Violet S Green 1918 December,also West Ham,aged 4 years old.???

I have just had a look Mary, there is a strong resemblance!

I googled Genty Hope Romany Gypsy.
Ist result titled

Were are they? Romany Road
Click on and scroll down to 4 photos.

I might be seeing things but the bottom photo on left of Lady and 3 children bears a resemblence to the photo of Violet on Ancestry.

I put the photos on bottom line of computor and kept looking at them,my hubby also thought they were alike.

Maryb.

Thanks Rose I will check this out.

I've come back to this death, as you mentioned that she may have died in the influenza epidemic, I think it might be worth a try?

Deaths Mar 1919 (>99%)
Green Violet 21 W.Ham 4a 416

Ah right Terry, just looked at your photo of Genty, and clearly not her in the other photo...

Hi Rose.
I also have a pic of Genty in my tree and she does not look like Violet,well what I mean is they are not that much alike,but I take in what your saying,and once again Thank you.

Just leaving this as a thought, if the photo is not Violet, but her sister Genty there is a marriage , the two children of which would be around the right age for those in photo...remembering that two sisters might have looked very alike ?

Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Cranfield Frederick Hope Colchester 4a 2249

Hope Genty M Cranfield Colchester 4a 2249



Births Mar 1916 (>99%)

Cranfield Amy F Hope Colchester 4a 1473

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)


Cranfield Harold Hope Colchester 4a 1051

Thank you Rose for your time.

yes Terry I found it on Ancestry. :-)

Will have another look tomorrow.

I take your comment on board Rose.im just going by what my cousin had said,so it sounds like you have seen the photo.??

Mike , might that not be this one though?

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)-

Hope Violet Lambeth 1d 326

Already found on other thread

1911

BARNES, Sarah Ann Head Widow F 52 1859 Boarding Houe Keeper Ramsey Hunts VIEW
BARNES, George Son M 8 1903 Earith Hunts VIEW
BARNES, Jonis Son M 6 1905 Earith Hunts VIEW
>>>>>>HOPE, Violet Boarder F 13 1898 School Lambeth London VIEW
DRAPER, Henry George Boarder M 3 1908 Pewsey Wilts VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
8770 Reference:
RG14PN8770 RG78PN458 RD172 SD2 ED2 SN141

silly question but it doesn't have the daughter's names? The trouble is of course that whilst it may say Violet on the reverse it may not be Violet in the photo? are we sure that it is? ( I have photo's that someone scribbled a name on and they got it wrong lol)

If Mr Green was an actor and the photo was taken Canning town, then he was possibly working at the music hall there but that doesn't help with a date unfortunately.

If pushed, looking at the photo I'd say from the child's boots about 1920 but that's just based on a photo I have of similar at that date.

the studio was in Canning town,London.may I just say thank you for keeping in on this Rose.

Is it a studio photo with the name of the photographer on reverse? that can sometimes help to date when it was taken

well there is no record of a marriage to Green, and no sign of her on the 1911 not under the name of Hope at least,

Hi Rose.
the details I have put on here are from my cousin,who I visited today she had the photos of Violet who was her fathers sister,his name was Golden Hope-born 1899,in the photo was her two daughters as written on the back of the photo,and as I said earlier she was supposed to have died,and my cousin wanted to know of whatever happened to her other daughter.