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continuing catch up I have found a Marriage for a Michae lHolohan in 1869 V 13 Page 405 Could this be the one to Bridget Brannock? I have jusy received the Birth Certificate for Mary Holohan born 15 May 1881 Parents Michael Holohan and Bridget Brannock It says FathersOccupation is Tradesman As I know he was a Tailor could thgis be described as a Tradesman and be the right one. Hope so Thankls for all previous help Pam

Thanks for the info on census I am going to order ther Birth Certificate now Pam

Hi Pamela,

I think that the family on 1901 and 1911 census are the right family.
I found on www.familysearch.org
Patrick Holohan born 30th April 1874.
Micheal " born 16th July 1878 (birth place Contraght)<<<<<<<
Ellen " born 17th March 1876
All with Father Michael
Mother Bridget Brannock.
Only Marraige that i can find is for a Bridget Brannock
Bridget Brannock Thomastown 1873 Volumn 14 Page 387 cannot find a corresponding Mickael Holohan though.

Contraght is the 1901 and 1911 census address for the family.
There is only a few Brannock families on Irish Cencus
Betty.

Continuing search for correct Birth Certificate for Mary Holohan born 1882 Kilkenny Ireland I tried all the previous suggestions and contacted dept that dealt with orders and it turns out that Eagan is not the Mothers Maiden name nor Bridget Shea The only one they have got says mothers name Bridget Brannock This means I am now looking to Find if there was a marriage to Michael Holohan with Occupation Tailor to a Bridget Brannock or find them on census Hope someone can help Thanks again Pam

I am going to order the marriage certificates for Michael Holohan to Bridget Eagan and the birth certificate for Mary 1881 as I believe this is the right family Thank you Pam

Had another look at the Marriage Certificate for Mary Holohan to Frances Williams 8th Feb 1908. If it helps the witneses on the certificate are Mary Ann Wiliams and a name i dont know Albert James Major. Could that help me find the right Holohan family i wonder? Thanks to everyone thats been helping Pam

please make sure you don't make any more postings on this family - continue to use an existing one - thanks

Pam, we have tried to offer help concerning the Holohan family. Please look at the names that have been found, and please explore the links that have been given, too. Thank you.

Hi Pamela, may have found Mary if you are sure that she was still in Ireland in 1901.
Residents of house 19, Dangan, (Ullid) Kilkenny.
Duggan Patrick (32) Head. R.C. Co. Kilkenny Farmer.

Duggan Kate (38) sister R.C. Co. Kilkenny. Farmer.

Duggan Hannah (36) sister R.C. Co. Kilkenny Farmer

Meagher Edward (26) servant R.C. Co. Kilkenny Labourer.

Holohan Mary (19) servant R.C. Co. Kilkenny Labourer.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Holohan James (16) servant R.C. Co. Kilkenny Labourer. Another brother of Marys??????

Hi Pamela,
Mary is NOT on either 1901 or 1911 census in Kilkenny, Margaret and John are on 1901, only John is on 1911. So Mary was gone from home before either census was taken. Mary very easily could have been 19 in 1901 as she was born 1882 she would have been 19 in 1901 if the birth i gave you for Apr-May-june is hers. The Census was read on about 4th April and if she was born after that date she would be only 19 then.,and as her parents were married 27 years, 37 years in 1911, it is very likely (if she was one of the older children)that it may well be her family. as margaret and john were only young in 1901., also Father Michael was the only Michael Holohan in Kilkenny on both census that was a TAILOR. Also 9 children born, but only 5 living.Three children had gone from home in 1901.
Betty.

Why can't the 1901 be the right family?

You should not dismiss info out of hand...................

Try looking for them yourself in 1901 and 1911 in ireland if you don't think other people are finding the right family

URL for other thread posted last night.................see above

ONE post per family is the RULE....it's not optional.

i am simply putting on messages to find someone that may help about one family Holohan

you already have a Holohan posting donlt you? I know I did some research on the family - really you should not have more than one posting per person/family - GR Rules

As Mary would be about 19 in 1901 census this cant be the right family It is possible that she was not living with her Parents then. She was in Domestic service when she got married and may have been in 1901 so need to look somewhere else for her then. Thanks for everyone helping with this Pam

Hi Pamela,
Are the people that i wrote here last night (Michael Holohan Tailor) in Kilkenny in 1901 and 1911 Irish census, not the right people????.

Betty.

Pam, information on a death certificate is only as accurate as the knowledge of the informant. The granddaughter perhaps was told that her grandmother was that age, and that age would agree with the census that has been quoted but ages in census vary.

Have you looked at the links to websites given to you to see if you can find Mary and her father in the earlier census?

Mary Holohan died in 1930 (married name Williams) and is registered in December Quarter of that year and she was 48 years old. I know that information is correct from her Grandaughter but unfortunately she does not know anymore abouit Michael Holohan and rest of family. Thanks Pam

Maybe????
1901 census.
Holohan Michael (Head) R.C age 60. Read and Write Kilkenny TAILOR.

Holohan Bridget wife R.C. age 50 Kilkenny.

Holohan Margaret Daughter R.C. age 10 years Kilkenny

Holohan John son R.C. age 14 years Kilkenny.

Living at House number 2 Coontraght, Tallaghasbrogue, Co. Kilkenny.

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1911 Census.

Holohan Michael (Head) Read and Write. age 72 years R.C. TAILOR. Kilkenny

Holohan Bridget wife age 60 years R.C. Kilkenny.

Holohan John son aged 24 years R.C. Farm servant. Kilkenny

Douling (Dowling??) Bridget aged 7 years Relative Co.Kilkenny.

Married 37 years, 9 children born, 5 children still living.

Living at house number 3, Coontraught, Tullaghanbrogue, County Kilkenny.
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?????
Birth
Holohon Mary April-May-June 1881 Volumn 4 Page 543 Callan.

Birth
Holohan Margaret Oct-Nov-Dec 1890 Volumn 4 Page 444 Callan.
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Marraige
Michael Holohan Callan 1873 Volumn 4 Page 659

Bridget Eagan Callan 1873 Volumn 4 Page 659.
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Marraige Michael Holohan Castletown 1873 Volumn 5 Page 76

Bridget Shea Castletown 1873 Volumn 5 Page 76.
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Death???
Holohan Michael Callan Oct-Nov-Dec 1924 Volumn 4 Page 265 (aged 78)
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You will need to get one of childrens Birth Certs first as there are the two Marraiges in the same year, both Michael and Bridget to get the mothers maiden name. I suspect though that it may be the one in the Reg. District of Callan.

Good luck,
Betty.

The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Well, the only birth registration in familysearch.org that I could see for a Mary with father Michael born about 1882 is 3 December 1880, Kildare: parents Michael and Kate Kenna Holohan. According to http://www.distancefromto.net/between/Kilkenny/Kildare
the distance between Kildare and Kilkenny is 37.71 miles. It could be right, sometimes geographical names are not always correct in census.

And perhaps you could kindly delete the newer thread about Mary's father? Thanks.