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Thanks again for help The one in Caistor is not the one as I have a copy of that Birth Certificate . It was suggested I write to Registrar to see if an error was made that is causing us not to be able to find it I will do that and see what happens Thanks Pam

Pamela

This is the website for North Lincs Registrations which includes Messingham/Glanford Briggs. They have an online search facility but the only one coming up for Stow/e is the famous William C from Caistor
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http://www.northlincs.gov.uk/registration/


Vera

so far as I know, you do NOT need a birth certificate for a baptism

you do not need a birth certificate for a marriage

you do not have to show a birth certificate to register a death


I think the only time you need a birth certificate is to obtain a passport, and to obtain the Old Age Pension.

so far as I know, you do NOT need a birth certificate for a baptism

you do not need a birth certificate for a marriage

you do not have to show a birth certificate to register a death


I think the only time you need a birth certificate is to obtain a passport, and to obtain the Old Age Pension.

continuing search for Birth Entry/Certificate for William George Stow. When a child was baptised in 1890 would they have needed to produce a Birth Certificate. If that is the case then somewhere there must be a Birth Certificate for William George Stow born 27th February 1890 in Messingham Lincolnshire as we now know he was baptised on 18th April 1890 I ask this following my visit to WDYTYR Olympia. They also suggested I write to the Current Registrar for Messingham to ask if they will check for this birth. Does anyone know who and an address to write to for this. Many Thanks again Pam

Jack was often used for people whose birth name was John so worth following up if you can

will check out Albert Brumby in 1901 census to add more to Brigg registration It does seem to be very likely the Jack Stow on 1911 is the one I am looking for and maybe they called him Jack to avoid confusion as there was already a John on Census What do you think? Thanks Pam

there is certainly an Albert Brumby born 1893 in Glanford B and none born anywhere else between 1891 & 1897

Thanks for suggestion of 'Jack Stow' will look at this in depth when i get home later keep the suggestions coming all worth checking out Thanks again Pam

????? probably stetching it. Jack a Waggoner on farm. Said to be born in Brigg accompanied on census by 17 year old Albert who is said to be born in Barrow in Furness. Possibly places of births transposed.

1911 England Census
about Jack Stow Name: Jack Stow
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Brigg
Civil parish: West Halton and Whitton
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: West Halton Doncaster
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Waggoner On Farm
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Registration District Number: 424
Sub-registration district: Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Piece: 20074
Household Members: Name Age
John Upton 30
Eliza Upton 31
John William Upton 6
Mary Upton 3
Fred Upton Under 4/12
Ada Upton Under 1/12
Jack Stow 23
Albert Brumby 17

Vera

Pamela


The photo on Reggie's posting .................. is her Avatar.


They are her mother and her grandmother, who both happened to be called Ellen


Neither of them is any connection to you.


The death registration looks as though it was found on ancestry.


.............. and here is the freebmd registration


Deaths Sep 1929 (>99%)

Stowe Eleanor A 63 Ulverston 8e 775




sylvia

Continuing search now for John Stow in 1911 Census. This is the older brother of William George . John was born on 22nd February 1888 in Dalton in Furness. Ulverston. He is the informant on the Death Certificate of his Father William dated 30th July 1911.in Barrow in Furness, Johns address on this certificate is Rose Cottage. .Coleby Nr. Doncaster. Have not been able to find him Thanks Pam

Dont mind clutching at straws if it means we find it eventually Need to find a relative such as Granchild that might hold the clue to the mystery Thanks for your help. Pam

having now looked at the image I totally agree that it is definitely William George and the E of the transcribed Ann looks similar to the E in what is probably Ellen on the previous page

(I said I was clutching at straws!!!!)

Many thanks for all your effort I believe the baptism is the correct one as if you look close at the larger image as we did with '"William Jack" it could easily be Ellen and if someone wrote this from hearing it " Ell Ann" could have been written slightly wrong Also there is still no Birth Certificate for child with the name as I have seen copies of any posibilities. The 1891 census shows Mary as eldest child born 1887 John is next born 22nd February 1888 (i have his birth certificate) and William George is next born in 1890 on 27th February Thomas was not born till after William and is not on 1891 census. Yes it definately says Son Thanks again Pam

co-incidence??

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
Harris William George Glanford B. 7a 685

same age as 1901 and same surname as Ellen's maiden name?

(clutching at the proverbial straws!)

going back to that baptism in Messingham

If that is the right William George then does it not prove that he was not born into the Dalton Stow family as the mothers name is stated as Ann not Ellen

does it definitely say 'son' on the 1891 census and listed between John & Thomas?

Hi Many thanks for helping find Ellen not sure why was not coming up in death searches Is it possible to print off a larger photo of the one on the side of message of your mother and Ellen Who is your Mother ? Do you know where Ellen Augusta is buried? Thank you so much Pam

Suggestion


Name: Eleanor A Stowe
Birth Date: abt 1866
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Ulverston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 775

Please can anyone help me find Ellen Augusta Stowe Death entry . This is William George Stowe's Mother . I have no trace of her after the 1911 Census Her Husband William Stowe died in 1911 and there were still very young children at home ( 4 children still under 10) The youngest Eva born in 1910. I have seached for a 2nd marriage but dont see anything that fits They lived in Dalton Lancashire for many years I have found William Stowe burial in St Mary Parish Dalton and was trying to find Ellen near by. Many Thanks Pam