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Cliffette

This is Annie's second marriage....

Marriages Sep 1894

Appleton Annie Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 102
Braham Frederick William J St. Saviour 1d 102

Tracey x

Yes please. See my Charles Siggs thread. Ta :-)

When did Richard die?

T x

Hi Tracey,

Yes she is.
Thank you

Cliffette,

This is believe is "Elsie V Banham's" birth...

Births Sep 1892 Appleton Elsie Violet Winchester 2c 118

Her sister with the family in 1891.

1891 RG number: RG12 Piece: 937 Folio: 18 Page: 30
Address: 34, Upper Brooks, St Mary Kalender, Winchester County: Hampshire
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APPLETON, Richard Head Married M 33 1858 Gosport Alverstoke
APPLETON, Annie Wife Married F 23 1868 Bishopstoke
APPLETON, Richard Son M 4 1887 Bishopstoke
APPLETON, Alice M Daughter F 2 1889 Bishopstoke
DUNNING, Ada Visitor Spinster F 14 1877 Bishopstoke

Is Ada Annie's sister?

This is Annie's marriage to Richard.

Marriages Dec 1886
Appleton Richard Winchester 2c 227
Dunning Annie Elizabeth Winchester 2c 227



Tracey x

Simon,

His Bancruptcy record would be why he died penniless.... he wasn't just a surgeon he was an Apothecary too..... so maybe he made some bad business decisions?

I mean i can imagine back then, medicines were expensive, and if he invested in the things people didn't really need, he might have whittled away his money.


Tracey x

Hi Tracey,

If still bored - how about this then?

Elsie V Braham born c1893 Bishopstoke Hants.
I am trying to find her marriage to Henry Morris? date unknown and her death date unknown, and any children she might have had.
I have searched through so many records, my eyes need a rest.
Thank you.

Yes, I have searched Lancs OPC and been to Preston to look at the records there.
I have found plenty about John but nothing on his parents and why he died penniless.

Sure Joy :-)

T x

Simon,

I have sent you his Bancrupcy declaration.


T x

Would you like another problem to be solved, Tracey? :)

Ok, yeah i deleted my comment when i re-read yours.... (been a long day!)

Have you looked at the Lancs OPC site? and have you searched the London Gazette?


Tracey x

The Ag Labs are not the Heatleys.

The Heatleys were easy to find back to John 1813 as they were all in Manchester.

John Heatley wasn't born in Manchester and I doubt to an Ag Lab.
My grandmother told me that there was a doctor in the family.
He died penniless somehow as well
A mystery is John.

Tracey
Thanks for having a go,
A real mystery how we can't find a surgeons parents.
I have AG Labs from 100+ years before.

Simon

Simon,

I've had a look at your John, and i can't really better what has been found for you already, sadly

Tracey x

Margaret,

I have sent you a PM with some ideas for finding him :-)


Tracey x

Simon why dont you just nudge up your thread this being one of them

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1212900

Hi Tracey

How about this one for a challenge

Who were John Heatley's parents and was he linked to Captain Heatley of Brindle

John Heatley 1813
Born in Preston but trained at College of Surgeons in London.
Marriage: 19 May 1836 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
John Heatley - Chemist and Druggist of London in the county of Middlesex
Ellen Jackson - Spinster
Witness: John Roskell Arrowsmith; L Lucas; Ann Heatley; E Craven
Married by Licence by: Thos. Todhunter Minister
Register: Marriages 1836-1837, Page 5, Entry 14
Source: LDS Film 1526078

First two sons born in London
An entry in Preston Chronicle (Preston, England), Saturday, September 26, 1840; Issue 1465. lists John Heatley of Whittle Le Woods having obtained a Game Licence for 1840.
In 1841 living at Dalton House Whittle
In 1851 living on Rochdale Road Manchester: Recorded as Heasley
In 1861 living at 87 Beecroft Terrace Blackley Manchester
Died at home on 13 October 1867 Paralysis 5 hours.
Death reported by son Peter Ralph Jackson
Buried 18th October 1867 in Manchester General Cemetary, Harpurhey.
Manchester General Cemetery UnknownSection 6145 3 John Heatley

Hello Tracy If your bored........

I am looking for Fred Barker. I would like to find his birth certificate, where he was born and the name of his parents.and if there were any other siblings.

Why ? Fred Barker married my mother in Wetherby- Yorkshire on the
29th.December.1941 Details on the Marriage Certificate are..........
Fred Barker-age-30-Bachelor-Rank or profession-Royal Engineers.
Sapper 2132947 (.Cafe Manager) Residence at the time of marriage.
29 High Street-Wetherby. Home Address 27a Station Road.Baildon-Shipley-Yorkshire. Father's name Fred Barker Deceased.master dyer.
Ada Margaret Powell-age 30-Spinster-Machine operator aircraft Production-address Stanhope Hotel-Rodley-Leeds.........
I know nothing at all about Fred Barker. I have so little to go on, and their are lots of Fred Barkers. I know there was a daughter Anne born 1942
but Anne died 2004, ( I only found out about this marriage after this date) Anne had 2 children But they know nothing of Fred Barker, Ada remarried in 1952 so did our Fred Die ? was he killed in the ww2.someone seemed to think that Fred was linked to Norman's Cafe in Shipley before the war. Would Fred or his parents be listed on any of the census's ? I have searched before. but could not find anything. so am still looking. Hope you can help.

Margaret.

Thank you all. I have the Emily Peters links and I know Abraham's BiL was Joseph Simmonds but I do not know his wife's details. Up to now I have been struggling to get the info above on Abraham and so did not explore the Brother and Sister in Law further. That will be my next few days task once I have tied in the above. Thank you all for your great help.

Bet you cannot tie down Daisy Rumble see below!

Married 18 Sep 1909, Daisy Rumble, 25 years, spinster, no profession given, lived at 35 The Hale Tottenham, father John Rumble, Provision Merchant.

Gustavus Hughes,26 years, bachelor, Sergeant 1 Mountain Battery Royal Queens Artillery, 4 The Broadway White Hart lane Tottenham, father Alfred Hughes (deceased), type founder.

However, I can still find no trace of Daisy with and John Rumble!

Thread was here http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1290331?page=1

Must sign off now for today as I am supposed to be cooking dinner.

Mike