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Yes Maureen.. I know what you mean.. it's very frustrating..
I said to my friend.. it's a blinkin good job this Scottish Granny's already deceased or..! ;-)

There's this on Scotlands people - as Eleanor though - Catholic PArish Registers
Eleanor Lawful Daughter Peter McLean Mary A Lindsay 9th November 1849

Presume next column is witnesses/godparents - Robert BLack Margt Donnelly
" " ' priest - John Macdonald

EDIT PArish of St MAry's Cathedral, Edinburgh

I don't suppose a grinder is similar to a cutler by any chance? I'm not an expert on jobs in the railway as to whether it also meant something else.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worshipful_Company_of_Cutlers

I have that marriage Stuart off Scotland's People.. and I did wonder..! the date's right for my Ellen isn't it? but what do I do? It gives Peter as a Grinder for North British Railway on that record
How could I find out if this Peter and Mary have a child Ellen in 1849?
Meryl

?? Marriage 27/10/1847 St Cuthberts Edinburgh City Midlothian

Peter McLean to MAry Ann Lindsay

GROS Data 685/02 0460 0474

Edinburgh Records Office couldn't find her though and I have trawled Scotland's people for a Birth record and the LDS site
it's sad I can't get further back, as my nephew has just moved to the west coast of Scotland to Lochaline, opposite Mull and Dewart Castle, where lots of McLeans originate from and I was really hoping to connect up.. Oh well.. :-(

I really don't know what religion they were..No.. sorry..

Meryl, but she probably was from Edinburgh, if that is her, it looks as though she was born there and possibly raised there.

She's certainly elusive!
It doesn't help that I keep thinking the name is McNeil. Getting a bit punchy! :-)

Maureen

Thankyou Maureen
Edinburgh Records sent me that census form also, but it's the Irish thing that sort of throws me off...
My Father was absolutely convinced his Gt.Granny was from Edinburgh. I remember being on holiday in Edinburgh, as a child and my Dad keep saying he wished he knew where his Gt,Granny had lived so mmm.. I do know things get confused over the years though..

Meryl, do you know what religion they were?

(I know you mentioned Manchester Cathedral)

How strange Maureen - I have just been perusing that one but I don't really know why !!!

Dea Xxx

I think the Walker comes through Alexanders sister-Eliza Jane...married Edmund Walker.

I'm just going to pop these people in here so I don't lose them. They're all born in Ireland and he's not a cutler,but I just wanted to check them out:
1851 Scotland Census about Peter Mclean
Name: Peter Mclean
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Mclean
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 685/3
Civil parish: Edinburgh Canongate
County: Midlothian
Address: Campbells Close
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 20
Page: 12 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 54
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1851_185
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Mclean 44
Mary Mclean 40
Ann Mclean 18
Catherine Mclean 14
Peter Mclean 7
Helen Mclean 1
Thomas Mccormic 23
William Mcnee 50

Source Citation: Parish: Edinburgh Canongate; ED: 20; Page: 5; Line: 12; Roll: 520; Year: 1851.

Maureen

Yes Secret Red Squirrel Thankyou,I wondered that but I have traced Alexander Rankins family back to Ireland..
The Walker is Alexander's sister's (Eliza) husbands side and therefore Caroline 'Walker' Rankin Eliza and Edmund Walker were probably Godparents, as Caroline is living with them on the 1891 census in Manchester..also

Hmm, I'm struggling too.

Just as an aside , have you traced Alexander's family back. Is he definitely from Manchester and has he got any Walker's in the family. Just wondering where Caroline's middle name came from.

I can not find either her, or Alexander, her husband on a 1891 census anywhere! I can find 3 daughters, living with relatives in various locations in Manchester and Heaton Norris... but not Ellen and Alexander.. it is a mystery, I tell you! :-|
Meryl

I have never been able to find a definite Birth for Ellen to work back, as I have never known her Mother's name for definite, only her Father's,
Meryl

So she should be on the 1891 census somewhere.

I also know that Ellen died in Heaton Norris in Stockport, Cheshire, on 15th December 1897 Age 48years old. A Rankin, joiner, is widower of deceased as I have a Death certificate

Meryl

So we know she was born about 1849 in Midlothian, Scotland and her father's name was Peter.