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1891 & 1901 Census lookup please

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Gigi

Gigi Report 7 Feb 2012 14:19

Hi,

Could someone please lookup:

John Newton
Mary Jane Newton née Robinson wife b1861 Cockermouth
Catherine Newton dau b1883 Cockermouth

John & Mary Jane married in 1881 after the census was taken.

There may be more children.

I can only find Catherine Newton in 1911 living with her Gran Mary Robinson in Cockermouth.

Thanks very much in advance,

Gillian

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:22

1901

Name: Catherine Newton
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England


Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 4880
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Burgess 70
Catherine Newton 18

1891 shows gran's sruname as Bingen.......haven't checked the image

Gigi

Gigi Report 7 Feb 2012 14:27

Hi Reggie,

Not sure if this is my Catherine.

Haven't come accross the name Burgess/Bingen before.

Thanks,

Gillian

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:27

Did the mother die in childrebirth?

Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%)
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NEWTON Mary Jane 21 Cockermouth 10b 337


Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Newton Catherine Cockermouth 10b 527

The gran could be John's mother......re-married

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2012 14:28


1891 England Census
about Kate Newton

Name:Kate Newton
[Catherine Newton]

Age:8

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883
Relation:Granddaughter
Gender:Female
Where born:Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish:Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Cockermouth
County/Island:Cumberland
Country:England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:
Registration district:Cockermouth
Sub-registration district:Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel:1

Neighbors:
Piece:4301
Folio:12
Page Number:18

Name Age
Catherine Bingen 62
Kate Newton 8



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:29

The Catherine I posted is the only one whose details match your criteria

Gigi

Gigi Report 7 Feb 2012 14:30

Ah yes she could have done!

That's why I cannot find her maybe!

Can you see Catherine & her father John a widow in 1891?

G

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:30

Checked 1891 image.........surname is Burgess

Correction notified

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Feb 2012 14:32

1881 poss

Name: John Newton
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Catherine Burgess
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: St Helens St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Grocer

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5172
Folio: 18
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Burgess 52
John Newton 25

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:32

No, she is with her grandmother, after whom she is probably named.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Feb 2012 14:33

Do you have the marriage cert for the age and occupation of John ?

Gigi

Gigi Report 7 Feb 2012 14:33

Thanks Reggie & Catherine.

I'll look into the Burgess connection.

Gillian

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:33

Look for John in 1881, to find out his mother's name

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Feb 2012 14:34

1871 England Census about Catherine Burgess

Name:Catherine Burgess
Age:42

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1829
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Burgess
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish:Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints
Town:Cockermouth
County/Island:Cumberland
Country:England

Registration district:Cockermouth
Sub-registration district:Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel:1
Household schedule number:46
Piece:5237
Folio:17
Page Number:27
Household Members:

Name Age
Robert Burgess 54
Catherine Burgess 42
Benjamin Burgess 22
John Newton 16
John Birkett 77



1861 England Census about John Newton

Name:John Newton
Age:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1855
Relation:Son
Mother's name:Catherine Newton
Gender:Male
Where born:Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish:Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish:Carlisle
Town:Cockermouth
County/Island:Cumberland
Country:England
Street Address:

Registration district:Cockermouth
Sub-registration district:Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel:2

Household schedule number:110
Piece:3935
Folio:23
Page Number: 20
Household Members:

Name Age
Catherine Newton 31
John Newton 6
John Birkett 67
Margaret Black 28



GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Feb 2012 14:35

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
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BURGESS Robert Cockermouth 10b 664
Newton Catharine Cockermouth 10b 664
Scott Joseph Cockermouth 10b 664
Studholme Sarah Cockermouth 10b 664

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:35

Checked it for you...had time to spare

Name: Catherine Burgess
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: St Helens St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5172
Folio: 18
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Burgess 52
John Newton 25



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:36

1871

Name: Catherine Burgess
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Burgess
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 146
Piece: 5237
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Burgess 54
Catherine Burgess 42
Benjamin Burgess 22
John Newton 16
John Birkett 77

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Feb 2012 14:37

1891 ??
Name: John Newton
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Newton
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4301
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
John Newton 36
Jane Newton 25
William B Newton 2
Mary E Newton 3/12

Class: RG12; Piece: 4301; Folio 13; Page 20; GSU roll: 6099411.

She is on 1901 census

So is there two families

Gigi

Gigi Report 7 Feb 2012 14:38

Hi Glitter baby,

That could be John Newton & his mother Catherine Burgess just before John & Mary Jane's marriage later that year 1881.

I don't know John's occupation.

Thanks,

Gillian

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Feb 2012 14:39

The 1891 fits with his correct age.......born c1855, not c1861, as you thought