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Gigi
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7 Feb 2012 14:19 |
Hi,
Could someone please lookup:
John Newton Mary Jane Newton née Robinson wife b1861 Cockermouth Catherine Newton dau b1883 Cockermouth
John & Mary Jane married in 1881 after the census was taken.
There may be more children.
I can only find Catherine Newton in 1911 living with her Gran Mary Robinson in Cockermouth.
Thanks very much in advance,
Gillian
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:22 |
1901
Name: Catherine Newton Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Piece: 4880 Folio: 11 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Burgess 70 Catherine Newton 18 1891 shows gran's sruname as Bingen.......haven't checked the image
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Gigi
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7 Feb 2012 14:27 |
Hi Reggie,
Not sure if this is my Catherine.
Haven't come accross the name Burgess/Bingen before.
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Gillian
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:27 |
Did the mother die in childrebirth?
Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEWTON Mary Jane 21 Cockermouth 10b 337
Births Dec 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton Catherine Cockermouth 10b 527
The gran could be John's mother......re-married
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Catherine
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7 Feb 2012 14:28 |
1891 England Census about Kate Newton
Name:Kate Newton [Catherine Newton]
Age:8
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883 Relation:Granddaughter Gender:Female Where born:Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Civil parish:Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints Town:Cockermouth County/Island:Cumberland Country:England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: Registration district:Cockermouth Sub-registration district:Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel:1
Neighbors: Piece:4301 Folio:12 Page Number:18
Name Age Catherine Bingen 62 Kate Newton 8
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:29 |
The Catherine I posted is the only one whose details match your criteria
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Gigi
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7 Feb 2012 14:30 |
Ah yes she could have done!
That's why I cannot find her maybe!
Can you see Catherine & her father John a widow in 1891?
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:30 |
Checked 1891 image.........surname is Burgess
Correction notified
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GlitterBaby
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7 Feb 2012 14:32 |
1881 poss
Name: John Newton Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Son Mother's name: Catherine Burgess Gender: Male Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cockermouth County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address: St Helens St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Grocer Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5172 Folio: 18 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Burgess 52 John Newton 25
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:32 |
No, she is with her grandmother, after whom she is probably named.
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GlitterBaby
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7 Feb 2012 14:33 |
Do you have the marriage cert for the age and occupation of John ?
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Gigi
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7 Feb 2012 14:33 |
Thanks Reggie & Catherine.
I'll look into the Burgess connection.
Gillian
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:33 |
Look for John in 1881, to find out his mother's name
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7 Feb 2012 14:34 |
1871 England Census about Catherine Burgess
Name:Catherine Burgess Age:42
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1829 Relation:Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Burgess Gender: Female Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Civil parish:Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints Town:Cockermouth County/Island:Cumberland Country:England
Registration district:Cockermouth Sub-registration district:Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel:1 Household schedule number:46 Piece:5237 Folio:17 Page Number:27 Household Members:
Name Age Robert Burgess 54 Catherine Burgess 42 Benjamin Burgess 22 John Newton 16 John Birkett 77
1861 England Census about John Newton
Name:John Newton Age:6 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1855 Relation:Son Mother's name:Catherine Newton Gender:Male Where born:Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Civil parish:Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish:Carlisle Town:Cockermouth County/Island:Cumberland Country:England Street Address:
Registration district:Cockermouth Sub-registration district:Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel:2
Household schedule number:110 Piece:3935 Folio:23 Page Number: 20 Household Members:
Name Age Catherine Newton 31 John Newton 6 John Birkett 67 Margaret Black 28
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GlitterBaby
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7 Feb 2012 14:35 |
Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BURGESS Robert Cockermouth 10b 664 Newton Catharine Cockermouth 10b 664 Scott Joseph Cockermouth 10b 664 Studholme Sarah Cockermouth 10b 664
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:35 |
Checked it for you...had time to spare
Name: Catherine Burgess Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cockermouth County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address: St Helens St Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5172 Folio: 18 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Burgess 52 John Newton 25
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7 Feb 2012 14:36 |
1871
Name: Catherine Burgess Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Burgess Gender: Female Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Cockermouth County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 146 Piece: 5237 Folio: 17 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Robert Burgess 54 Catherine Burgess 42 Benjamin Burgess 22 John Newton 16 John Birkett 77
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7 Feb 2012 14:37 |
1891 ?? Name: John Newton Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Newton Gender: Male Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cockermouth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Cockermouth County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Cockermouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4301 Folio: 13 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age John Newton 36 Jane Newton 25 William B Newton 2 Mary E Newton 3/12 Class: RG12; Piece: 4301; Folio 13; Page 20; GSU roll: 6099411.
She is on 1901 census
So is there two families
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Gigi
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7 Feb 2012 14:38 |
Hi Glitter baby,
That could be John Newton & his mother Catherine Burgess just before John & Mary Jane's marriage later that year 1881.
I don't know John's occupation.
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Gillian
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ErikaH
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7 Feb 2012 14:39 |
The 1891 fits with his correct age.......born c1855, not c1861, as you thought
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