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Deciphering place of residence on marriage cert

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Nicola

Nicola Report 10 Feb 2012 08:56

Good point reggie!
i think this line can go to bed for a few months. i will come back to it at a later date.
Thankyou all for your help, much appreciated

Nicola

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Feb 2012 13:10

It won't tell you anything about his birth...........the only info which may be of use is the informant's name etc, and the deceased's occupation

Nicola

Nicola Report 9 Feb 2012 12:01

id say williams death is likely to be this one- considering he was in essex in 1924 when his son Ronald was born and also the link to Barking in Essex
Name: JAMIESON, William H
Registration District: Help Romford
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1948
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 62
Volume No: 5A
Page No: 406

perhaps i will have to try that cert before i can get any further

brillo

brillo Report 9 Feb 2012 11:17

St Matthews was on the corner of Roseberry Road and Wandsworth Bridge Road. The church was knocked down and some knew houses and a smaller church built in its place. I was born in Fulham the church yard was at the back of my garden.

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2012 10:03

When and where did William die?

Flick

Flick Report 9 Feb 2012 09:56

For what it's worth, my opinion is that it's definitely Haborough, Grimsby, (NO 'r' before the 'b') and he clearly signed with second name Henry.

If it helps, when my parents married in Blackburn, Lancs, my father's address was in Oswestry, Shropshire..........so it's quite feasible for him to have been living somewhere other than where the marriage took place

Naming a father on a marriage cert doesn't necessarily mean that he existed - or at least, not as a husband of the mother

Nicola

Nicola Report 9 Feb 2012 08:31

look at the 'in' in spinster, does it look the same as our mystery word?
my eyes are going bobbly now!
if it wasnt for the fist loopy letter id think it said ninety.
is it a ty at the end or an ry? if you look at rosebury ( brides address) i think the r looks different to the above.
is the above a ty?
i think im going to take my eyes out and wash them :-)

Nicola

Nicola Report 9 Feb 2012 07:34

I agree that the registrar seems to have written Harry whereas William has signed Henry as his middle name.
I had a look on Scotlands people for births of a William H Jamieson 1886-1888 and the only 2 that came up as William Henrys had different fathers names when i viewed the image. There were no William Harrys at all.
( please do a subscription scotland people, please!)
So at least i feel i can concentrate in England/Wales for him now!
Also- William Harry/Henry Jamieson apparantly worked at Barking Power Station, his wife Kathleen went up to her daughters ( also Kathleens) in yorkshire during the bombings in the 2nd World War and apparantly William couldnt evacuate with her because of his job at the power station.

Dea

Dea Report 8 Feb 2012 21:16

Sorry , I have to go to bed just now but just had a quick look and it is something to do with this:

It actually says 'Haborough' and then Grimsby BUT, bearing in mind that he is a shunter on the railways - this will probably connect somewhere:

Habrough railway station serves the village of Habrough and the town of Immingham in North East Lincolnshire, England. It was built by the Great Grimsby and Sheffield Junction Railway in 1848. The station is managed by Northern Rail, and is also served by First TransPennine Express and East Midlands Trains.

I am sure one of you brilliant people will connect this while I have my little sleep ??

Dea Xxx

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Feb 2012 21:02

Good suggestion Shelagh. There WAS a Harborough Road in Wandsworth on the 1911 census.

Lot of houses, though - I'll have a skim through.

EDIT, it is the Streatham one once I started looking through.

Shelagh

Shelagh Report 8 Feb 2012 20:41

I used to live in that part of Fulham in the 90s. Rosebury Road is to the East of Wandsworth Bridge Road just up from the river and St. Matthew's (I don't think ot there anymore, I do remember it closing down) was on Wandsworth Bridge Road not far from Rosebury Road. And although it looks like Grimsby, I do recall a Harborough Road in the area (not the one in Steatham), maybe that has gone with new developments in Fulham as I can't find it on google maps.
Shelagh

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 8 Feb 2012 20:25

I'd go for Grimsby as well. On the next page of marriages he's making the "G's" in Gardiner the same way.

Maureen

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 8 Feb 2012 19:54

William signs his middle name as Henry.

I would also go for Grimsby.
The last letter before the Y is a tall letter and the address of Kathleen is shown as Rosebury Road.
The mystery place looks nothing like the ......bury of that address.

I notice both fathers are shown as 'deceased'.
I wonder if they were or was that said to avoid awkward questions of consent due to the bride's young age?

Gwyn

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Feb 2012 19:47

I think it says Haborough Grimsby on London marriage records on Ancestry.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2012 19:43

On Ancestry if anyone wants to take a look

Name: Kathleen Anne Elizabeth Gooch
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Spouse Name: William Harry Jamieson
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1912
Parish: Fulham St Matthew
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Charles William Gooch
Spouse Father Name: John Jamieson
Register Type: Parish Register


His signature looks like William Henry

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 8 Feb 2012 19:40

There son was born 1924 in Rochford..Essex,so he didn't move around that much then.

Mary

Mary Report 8 Feb 2012 19:30

His wife was born 1895 in Wandsworth,so that would be the reason he married there.

They must have stayed in Fulham as their daughter was born there 1915.

Maryb.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Feb 2012 19:22

His occupation was a "shunter" which I guess is on the railways? (Checked Railway records for him - no sign). I don't know much about railway workers - would a shunter work in one location or travel around on the trains?

If the latter, that might explain why he lived some way away at the time of marriage.

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 8 Feb 2012 19:16

it looks very much like FINSBURY to me.which makes more sense as why would someone living in Grimsby be getting wed in London.
Why I say Finsbury is because compare the f of Finsbury to the F in the OF in Parish ch of

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Feb 2012 18:23

There is a Habrough a few miles from Grimsby. There is a Henry on the previous marriage page, looks very much the same handwriting. There were also quite a few weddings that day, maybe the vicar was getting tired writing out the certificates and the G in Grimsby slipped.