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Margee
Thanks for looking....and for hubby's input too.
I thought of pedlar, but like you didn't really see it as that.

Odd to go from clerk to excavator

Thank you for your help.

Gwyn

Looks like (?)edler. Can't imagine what it might be. Hubby says pedler but certainly doesn't look like P to me.

Looks like he's an excavator on the 1911 Canadian census.

Having a great time looking at images, not just this family but other names of interest.

HELP Please with the father Arthur's occupation on the birth registration in 1909 of his daughter Violet May BELLCHAMBERS

http://search.ancestry.ca/browse/view.aspx?dbid=8838&iid=VRBCAN1908_102542-01498&pid=2257424&ssrc=&fn=Violet+May&ln=Bellchambers&st=g

He was previously seen as a clerk

Gwyn

Many, many thanks mgnv.
I have alerted my friend to the free access today.

Hopefully this information will help her.

Gwyn

Home / 1852 / Canada West / Haldimand (county) / 111 Oneida township part 2 / p. 22d, 23a, (95) Split view
Line Name Occupation Place of Birth Religion Residence if out of limits Age Sex
1 Garnham, Sarah England Episcopalian 48 F
2 Belchambers, Sarah England Episcopalian 13 F
3 Belchambers, John England Episcopalian 7 M
4 Wickett, John Servant England Episcopalian 26 M

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002352114.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002352115.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002352116.pdf

NB Age above is age next birthday.



1861 Seneca Twp, Haldimand Co
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108074_00175.pdf
1861Ag http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108074_00193.pdf
1861Ag http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108074_00194.pdf
[John has 2 lots? L39/L50 - Conc 1 Lot 4 (100ac) & Pt Nilles track (i.e., tract? 80ac)
Also Robert Wickett has 100ac in Pt Nilles - a standard 100ac lot was 20chains x 50 chns NB 80chns=1mile]

If I had to guess, I'ld say John Wickett has wed Sarah - it's pre civil registration, but there might be a church record somewhere.



http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/images/maps/townshipmaps/hald-m-seneca.jpg
Last Name Wickett
First Name N.H.
Post Office York
Township Seneca
County Haldimand
Atlas Date 1879
Concession and Lot Lot size
FCT, 4 50
NT, 4 100
[FCT=Fish Carrier Tract, NT=Nelles Tract]

Last Name Wickett
First Name N.H.
Nativity England
Business Farmer; Township Treasurer
Year Settled 1844
Post Office York
Town York
Township Seneca
County Haldimand
Atlas Date 1879
Map not available for this record.


1871 Oneida Twp
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396292_00471.pdf


1881 Household:
Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion
John ... M Male English 55 England Farmer Church of England
Sarah ... M Female English 42 England Church of England
Nathaniel ... Male English 19 England Church of England
Emily ... Female English 16 England Church of England
Matilda ... Female English 14 England Church of England
Henry ... Male English 11 England Church of England
Albert ... Male English 9 England Church of England
Fredrick ... Male English 7 England Church of England
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Census Place Oneida, Haldimand, Ontario
Family History Library Film 1375891
NA Film Number C-13255
District 146
Sub-district F
Division 2
Page Number 26
Household Number 115


http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008189095.pdf
[The image does say Wicket]

1891
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148142-00216.pdf


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON HALDIMAND & MONCK (#67)
Subdistrict: Oneida J-4 Page 6
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6470
9 56 Wickett John M Head M Jan 19 1826 75
10 55 Wickett Sarah F Wife M Feb 7 1839 62
11 55 Wickett Frederick M Son M Jun 1 1874 27
12 55 Wickett Alice M. F Daughter-in-law M Mar 8 1847 27
13 55 Wickett Fredrick B. M Grandson S Jun 9 1899 1


1901S1 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066357.pdf
1901S2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000066351.pdf
[P6L9 addy=Oneida Lot 4 ER Mc R R - not a typical addy(mgnv) John immig 1850]

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Haldimand / 20 Oneida / page 3
34 35 Wickett Frederick M Head M Jun 1874 37
35 35 Wickett Alice F Wife M Mar 1874 37
36 35 Wickett Frederick M Son S Jun 1899 11
37 35 Wickett Elizabeth F Daughter S Feb 1907 4
38 35 Wickett John M Son S Mar 1910 1
39 35 Wickett William M Father W Jan 1826 85

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001989625.pdf
[image does say John, not Wm]



Check out the census - I just looked for Sarah - you can use the links at
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html


*** MOST IMPORTANTLY, USE THE LAST FREE DAY TO CHECK OUT ANCESTRY'S ONTARIO BMDs

Canadian BMDs are free on Ancestry thru 5am Tuesday (UK time).

Check out the images for the following hits:


View Record Name Estimated Birth Year Death Date Death County or District Gender View Image
View Record John Wicket abt 1826 31 Mar 1919 Haldimand Male
[John farmer wid of Caledonia Oneida Twp pob=ENG no other onfo given]
View Record Sarah Wickett abt 1840 7 Feb 1910 [4/1/1910] Haldimand Female
[Sarah marr, b 7/2/1839 pob=ENG d/o George Belchamber pob=ENG + Sarah Chapman pob=Ont informant=son Fred Wickett of Caledonia]

[Search for Wicket*, child of John & Sarah]
View Record Name Spouse Name Marriage Date Marriage Location View Image
View Record Alice Maud Davidson Fredk Wickett 6 Sep 1898 Wentworth
View Record Alice Maud Davidson Fredk Wickett 6 Sep 1898 Wentworth
View Record Edith Mary Hume Charles Hearn Wickett 18 Oct 1905 Durham
View Record Edith Mary Hume Charles Hearn Wickett 18 Oct 1905 Durham
View Record Matilda Wickett James Patterson 28 Nov 1888 Haldimand
View Record Fredk Wickett Alice Maud Davidson 6 Sep 1898 Wentworth
View Record William Wickett Elizabeth Sarah Yeo 1 Dec 1897 Frontenac

patchem
Thanks for your interest.

I haven't got details here, but she has birth certs. for Sarah Dickenson Belchamber and her brother George Chapman Belchamber.
I can ask for details tomorrow if you wish.

Not sure if these are correct spellings as registered... they vary so much.


Gwyn

Which children has your friend got the birth certificates for?
Thank-you

Mel and MarieCeleste

Thank you for the extra information.
I note that the purchase of land was in the area where young Sarah and John are located in 1851/ 52 census, so that might be worth following up.

MarieCeleste... Great isn't it?
Obvious mistakes for everyone to copy..?
Friend has been through GRO and doesn't think George died in England.
She has contacted someone about this wrong information and has had a good response from one researcher, but until we can prove a few details it's hard to convince some people that they are on the wrong track.... even when they 'die' before they are seen in census.

Gwyn

There's also a tree on Ancestry that has George b 1806 as dying in 1838. However, it goes on to list 1851, 1861 & 1871 census for him!

A tree on Ancestry has George Bellchamber 1804 sussex buying some land in Canada in 1845. this is what it says.

Date
15 Sep 1845
Location
Oneida, Haldimand, Ontario, Canada
Description
Purchase of Lot 4, 100 Acres Through Indian Land Sale

Thank you for looking Mel.

Friend has been looking at trees on Ancestry linked to these names and knows for a fact that there is wrong information out there, ...unfortunately being shared by the look of things, sometimes with no sources so we are trying to establish facts.

One person in Canada writes that George bought some land over there in 1840s. As young George, the son, would have been too young, so this could be George the beer house keeper.

A Benjamin Belchamber of Petworth, Sussex left a Will with his wife Elizabeth named as beneficiary. On Elizabeth's death the money was to go to their sons, George and John. This son George was baptised in Sussex in 1806 and as Elizabeth d. 1844 the timing would fit for the money to be avaiable to emmigrate and possibly buy some land.

All theory, but difficult to prove that the George who married Sarah Chapman was born in Sussex and later moved to Canada.

Well I can't find any passenger lists under the names of Sarah Belchamber or Sarah Wickett or John Wickett. I can't find a baptism for Sarah Dickenson Belchamber only her birth.

On the census I looked at on someones tree (for Canada) it said John was from England as well as Sara born 1826 and she born 1839.

Odd isn't it patchem ....still looking for them

Gwyn

Why are there no children with George and Sarah in 1841?
Have you found Sarah (1839)?

Thank you Mel.

Do you know if passenger lists to Canada are available for that time please?

Gwyn

Well that census confirms one of the baptisms as it is the same address of Gardeners Lane.

1841

Name: George Bellchamber
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Margaret
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Margaret
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 738
Book: 2
Folio: 33
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
George Bellchamber 35 ..........beer house keeper
Sarah Bellchamber 35

So sorry... so many phone calls !

Many thanks to you all for your help.

George who died in 1850 is probably the George baptised in1816, son of Henry and Elizabeth...Henry was a farrier.
This George's dates would fit better with the burial.In 1841 he may be a labourer 25, in St John's the Evangalist, Middlesex.

Friend has birth certs. for 2 of George and Sarah's children, but not for John born Midhurst district.... Although she has no follow-on from that John anywhere else in parish records or census.
From his name it would fit being Sarah's son, but one cannot assume, I know.

Friend had heard that there may be a connection to John WICKET in Canada, but has no details or dates. Any help with this would be great please.

IF, big IF, the George who married Sarah CHAPMAN was born in Sussex, he may be in my own tree, so we are trying to collect all the facts to see if the pieces fit.

Gwyn

Did this Sarah Dickenson marry in 1856 in Canada to John Wicket who was 13 years older than her? John was also from England.