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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Mar 2012 16:32

Now I'm confused, Potty. According to the 1911 census son Fred was 14 but father George only 29. Was he really only 15 when son was born? Or is he indeed 2nd husband of Selina? But then was she a widow Brown who married a Brown?

Edit: Sorry, Potty, just read your post, must learn to refresh first!

K

K Report 4 Mar 2012 16:31

There is this Selina in 1901 listed as married - on the passenger list in 1908 I think it says Fisherman after husband - the husband's occupation as with other wifes in the list - Edit - Sorry just read your post and you will have this

Name: Selina Brown
[Selina Bartlett]
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Bartlett
Mother's name: Amelia Bartlett
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton

Civil parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Southampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Southampton
Sub-registration district: Southampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Piece: 1058
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bartlett 59
Amelia Bartlett 60
Selina Brown 33
Frederick Brown 3
Nellie Brown 2 8 Months

Potty

Potty Report 4 Mar 2012 16:23

Margee, I am trying to help a distant relative with this one. She is descended from Selina's son, John. Selina was married to a Frederick William Brown, in London in 1894.

Apparently there is a family story that Frederick died and she re-married to his brother, George. Frederick's father's name on the marriage cert is John. We cannot find a John Brown with sons Frederick and George! Selina doesn't help matters by changing her age! She was older than both Frederick and George, so I think she just lied to lessen the age difference - she was actually born in 1867 not 1877 as on the 1911.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Mar 2012 16:15

Curious! The 1911 census says that he emigrated 1900. That's 8 years before she did! And there were children born during that time. Maybe she was a widow. I'm off to look at that passenger list again.

Edit: Oops! it does have W for widow. But it also says "going to join husband". Something else is written after husband but I can't make it out.

Potty

Potty Report 4 Mar 2012 15:42

Thanks, again, Margee. So, she wasn't a widow when she travelled to Canada.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Mar 2012 15:16

Some Ontario marriages here:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/index.htm

Note: She's Selma on the 1911 census on Automated Genealogy.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Mar 2012 15:14

Selina, 34, Fred'k, 11, John, 8 and Ellen, 5 arrived Quebec, 24 July 1908 aboard the "Lake Erie" to join husband in Ottawa.

Potty

Potty Report 4 Mar 2012 15:07

Thanks, Margee. I did try the link you give but couldn't find her! She is actually Selina.

Margee, Is it possible to search online for Ontaria marriages for around 1908/1911?

Edit: sorry, K, Thank you, too.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Mar 2012 14:50

1911 Canadian census is free here:

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

Her name is mistranscribed Selma here.

K

K Report 4 Mar 2012 14:50

1911??

Name: Selema Brown
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 34
Birth Date: May 1877
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Brown
Immigration Year: 1908
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Carleton
District Number: 61
Sub-District Number: 39
Place of Habitation: 85 Greenfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Brown 29 Birth Date: Jul 1882 Labourer
Selema Brown 34
Frederick Brown 14 b Mar 1897
John Brown 11 b Sep 1900
Helen Brown 8 b Oct 1903

All born England

Potty

Potty Report 4 Mar 2012 14:48

Original thread title: 1911 Canadia Census; new request 7th March- see below.

Please, could somebody lookup Selema Brown in the above census?

Thanks.