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John Richard Brewer 1883

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Cheshiremaid

Cheshiremaid Report 13 Mar 2012 15:56

????

1885 birth on LancsBMD...

MORRIS Susan Churchman Drummond
Poulton-le-Fylde
Blackpool

Mother's maiden name DRUMMOND

Also this marriage in 1868..

MORRIS William Henry
DRUMMOND Elizabeth
Blackpool, St.John
Blackpool

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Linda

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:42


Thanks Again "Good Night"

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:39

Until you get certificates to make sure of fathers names etc. it is all speculation.

That is the only Susan Morris I can find born in Blackpool and that matches the 1911 census.

You would have to get John's birth certificate to confirm that his mother's maiden name is Morris.

The fact that her husband is at sea helps to connect her to you.



SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:35

Looks good to me I will go with what you have discovered "Thank You" for your time patience and efforts "Good Night " regards
George

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:32

I don't know if they would have the marriage certificate?

I always buy mine from

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

If you are going to buy them this is the only site to get them from.



One other thing, have you tried Search Trees on this site to see if anyone else has your ancestors in their trees?

If you find a possible match you can contact the tree owner to see if you have a connection.

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:28

Here's the same family in 1881 census -

MORRIS, William Henry Head Married M 32 1849 Joiner & Carpenter
Wakefield Yorkshire
MORRIS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1850 Bristol Gloucestershire
MORRIS, Charles Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Blackpool Lancashire
MORRIS, Joshua Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Blackpool Lancashire
MORRIS, John W Son Single M 1 1880 Blackpool Lancashire
TURNER, George Lodger Single M 11 1870 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire
SIMPSON, Andrew Lodger Married M 35 1846 Joiner & Carpenter Preston
Lancashire

Piece: 4252 Folio: 91 Page: 16 Registration District: Fylde
Civil Parish: Layton with Warbreck Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, Back Clifton St, Layton With Warbreck County: Lancashire

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:26

If i went to Hulls new History Museum do you think they could find a marriage cert somehow

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:21

??????????
1891 census -

MORRES, William H Head Married M 42 1849 Joiner Wakefield Yorkshire VIEW
MORRES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 41 1850 Fancy Goods Dealer Bristol
Gloucestershire VIEW
MORRES, Joshua Son M 15 1876 Blackpool Lancashire VIEW
MORRES, Eliza G Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Blackpool Lancashire
MORRES, Susannah C Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Blackpool Lancashire VIEW
LEACH, Ellen Single F 19 1872 Domestic Servant Blackpool Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 3453 Folio: 42 Page: 20 Registration District: Fylde
Civil Parish: Layton with Warbreck Municipal Borough: Blackpool
Address: 42, Charles Street, Layton With Warbreck, Blackpool
County: Lancashire

As I mentioned earlier, you would have to get the marriage certificate to see who the fathers are?

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:19

Yes i have those births Thanks

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:17

Conclusion Whos her mam and dad Please ?

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:15

Do you have these births?

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
BREWER William H Morris Sculcoates 9d 288

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
BREWER George W Morris Sculcoates 9d 278
BREWER Leslie Morris Sculcoates 9d 277

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
BREWER George E Morris Sculcoates 9d 309

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Brewer Lewis S Morris Sculcoates 9d 309

Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Brewer Kenneth G Morris Sculcoates 9d 309

Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Brewer Morris D Morris Sculcoates 9d 233

Births Jun 1927 (>99%)
Brewer Ruby Morris Sculcoates 9d 275


SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:15

Conclusion whos her mam and dad?

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:13

Then it looks as though that is Susan/Susannah in the 1911 census.

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:11

Yes on his cert it says at sea

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:08

George,

The marriage I put is the ones with ****** next to them.

I have now deleted the ones that are not needed.

Susan could be Susannah?

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:07

The first line of the 1911 census is left blank as though ready for "husband" and in the Whether working or at home column there is written "at Sea" and it has been crossed out.

do you know if John was a "seaman"????

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:07

Where is Flyde ? and do you think Brown and Bushell are her mam and dad?

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:05

????
1911 census -

BREWER, Susan Wife Married 3 years F 25 1886 Lane Blackpool VIEW
BREWER, John Son M 2 1909 Lane Blackpool VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 28641 Reference: RG14PN28641 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED31 SN125
Registration District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle
Enumeration District: 31 Parish: Sculcoates
Address: 9 Elm Avenue Liverpool St Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)

Lynski

Lynski Report 13 Mar 2012 03:03

?????????

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
*****BREWER John Fylde 8e 1155
*****MORRIS Susan Fylde 8e 1155

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 13 Mar 2012 03:01

My dads name is Lewis Septimus Brewer 1919 sculcoates Hull on his birth cert it gives John Richard Brewer and Susannah Morris But cant work out who she is or were she comes from. Thanks.