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1911 census transcription details for: 22 Bensham Grove Thornton Heath
National Archive Reference: RG14PN3392 RG78PN127 RD39 SD4 ED25 SN228

Reg. District: Croydon Sub District: North Croydon
Parish: Croydon Enum. District: 25
Address: 22 Bensham Grove Thornton Heath County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Where Born
LONG, Harry Walter Head Married M 42 1869 House Painter Elm Grove Brixton
LONG, Annie Eliza Wife Married14 years F 41 1870 Cornwall Rd Brixton
LONG, Annie Margaret Daughter F 12 1899 Croydon Surrey
LONG, Harry Alfred Son M 7 1904 Croydon Surrey
LONG, Gladys Emily Daughter F 3 1908 Croydon Surrey
LONG, Lousia May Daughter F 0 1911 Croydon Surrey

Ozibird,
Your 1881 census of the "Estafette" ties in with his occupation as sailor
as it looks like a training ship.

It does look like Annie Preece & John Fullagar were a couple as I've found what might be the other two on that reg'n index.

1891 England Census
Name: Rosetta Staples
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Staples
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford

Piece: 494
Folio: 150
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Staples 19
Rosetta Staples 19
Edward J Staples 6/12

1934 death of George Robert Boys
Address
1,East View Cottages
Grayswood
Surrey

£121 10s to widow Annie Ellen Boys.

1891 Sussex Vessels Duke of York
John Fullagar 1855 Hastings Sussex married Fisherman.

Maryb

Hi Mary,
I didn't know of a will.

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1881 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenstreet, Kent, England
Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: "Estafette"

Occupation: Apprentice
Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: Estapetter




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Marriages Jun 1890
Andrews Rosetta Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 1452
Fullagar John Joseph Greenwich 1d 1452 <<<<<
Preece Annie Louisa Greenwich 1d 1452 ?????
Staples Edward Richard Greenwich 1d 1452

it's a Brick Wall !!!
is there a way of finding out who was living at her address given in 1911
which was:- 22 Bensham Grove, Thornton Heath. ??

Have you found her death?
She must have died after 1934 as she is named in the will of her husband who died 1934.


Maryb.

I cannot still find anything!


I have suggestions ............... none of which are helpful


....... she changed her name

....... she lied about her age

...... she lied about her father

....... she lied about her father's occupation



most of the John Fullagar's I've found have been Ag Labs, with one having a Draper Shop (but he had no children living with him)



sylvia.

Yes,
Now all i need is her family.

So it looks like the 1911 that Glitterbaby found on the 18th fits the bill as regards birth year?

Nudge.

Update,
Received marriage cert today as follows:-
17/4/1911, Annie Ellen Fullagar, age 29, spinster, 22 Bensham Grove, Thornton Heath, Father John Fullagar, (deceased) occ. Sailor.
So date of her birth is 1882.

Hi GlitterBaby,
I've sent for Boys George R, Croydon x Fullagar Annie E.
Also looked at the tree Sylvia found and the guy also has the name Belchin on there,
Pity he has not logged on for over a year !!

1911 just posting in case this is the marriage cert you sent for

BALCHIN, Morton William Head Married M 48 1863 Labourer Chiddingfold VIEW
BALCHIN, Liza Wife Married
24 years F 50 1861 Hambledon VIEW
BALCHIN, George Son Single M 23 1888 Gardener Hambledon VIEW
BALCHIN, Arthur Son Single M 20 1891 Gardener Hambledon VIEW
BOYS, George Robert Boarder Single M 28 1883 Groom And Gardener Balham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3142 Reference:
RG14PN3142 RG78PN116 RD35 SD1 ED1 SN26

Registration District:
Hambledon Sub District:
Witley Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Hambledon Excluding Workhouse

Address:
The Cricket Green Hambledon Godalming

I'm researching Annie Ellen Fullagar,
Have just ordered the marriage cert that SylvialnCanada has come up with,
Will come back with info on receipt,
Many Thanks.

1911 this one has wrong middle name

HUGH, Albert George Son Single M 44 1867 Indian Govt Pensioner Calcutta India VIEW
HUGH, Albert Father Of Above Married
45 years M 69 1842 Indian Govt Pensioner London England VIEW
HUGH, Jean Charlotte Wife Of No 2 Married F 62 1849 Calcutta India VIEW
SMEED, Jean Florence Sister Married
13 years F 36 1875 Devonshire England VIEW
FULLAGAR, Annie Norris Servant Single F 23 1888 Kent England VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3377 Reference:
RG14PN3377 RG78PN127 RD39 SD4 ED10 SN335

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
North Croydon Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Croydon

Address:
87 Albert Road South Norwood S E




Births Jun 1888 (>99%)
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FULLAGAR Annie Norris Bridge 2a 795



Who exactly are you researching ?

Name: Annie E D Loft
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1929
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Gravesend
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1484

The only mention of an Annie Ellen Fullagar that I can find on ancestry is a tree which has no other information other than that she married an "Unknown" Boys, and had several children


That led me to this entry on freebmd.org.uk ..................

Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)

>>>>Boys George R Croydon 2a 715
>>>>FULLAGAR Annie E Croydon 2a 715
Harrison Stanley Croydon 2a 715
Martin Florence M Croydon 2a 715
Waterland Hettie Croydon 2a 715
Willsher George E Croydon 2a 715




But THAT is all that I can find!


There is not an entry on freebmd for the birth of an Annie Ellen, though several Annie E Fullagar's


Three of the Boys/Fullager children were registered in Hambledon, which "spans the boundaries of the counties of Surrey and Sussex".



You will probably have to buy that marriage certificate, which should have on it the name of her father and his occupation, as well as the address where she was living at the time of the marriage.


The name of her father is essential for us to find her.




sylvia