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Joseph Thompson
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 04 May 1836 Muncaster,?Cumberland,?England
spouse: Margaret Steele


groom's name: Joseph Thompson
bride's name: Margaret Steele
marriage date: 04 May 1836
marriage place: Muncaster,Cumberland,England
indexing project (batch) number: M01184-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 90649

thank you Mike - I really appreciate that and understand the difference.

thanks Anne yes - those are what i had and armed with the Lancs info indicating Joseph was a widower when marring Margaret steele am assuming Mary Nicholson died. But not before they'd have at least 2 sons from what i can tell (john b1828 and William Nicholson Thompson b 1824).

My real interest is this entry.....

Adah Thompson Steele
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 25 Apr 1832
baptism/christening place: Muncaster, Cumberland, England
mother's name: Margaret Steele

....as Ada Thompson is my definite fixture going back....(her marriage cert shows father as joseph thompson - gentleman) and perhps indicates a little fling to the side before things were put straight perhaps once mary had died.......

And until 30mins ago I'd spent 3 yrs tring to work out if Ada was connected to Joseph Thompson of Brankinwall (with wills from Kew) and thanks to that Lancs site ...as details above it does connect the dots....with that Jospeh, Margaret and then Adah.

I can find Thompson name associated with Brankenwell going back to 1604 (Hugo) . Somehow it seems around the 1830/40 time a few hundred years of thompsons owning Brakenwall stopped. Which gives me my next goal - why !

time for a drink- 3yrs !

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William Nicholson Thompson
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 Jul 1824 Muncaster,? Cumberland,? England
residence: Muncaster,? Cumberland,? England
parents: Joseph Thompson,? Mary


name: William Nicholson Thompson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Jul 1824
baptism/christening place: Muncaster, Cumberland, England
father's name: Joseph Thompson
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I03761-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1472059

John Thompson
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 02 Mar 1828 Muncaster,? Cumberland,? England
residence: Muncaster,? Cumberland,? England
parents: Joseph Thompson,? Mary


name: John Thompson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 02 Mar 1828
baptism/christening place: Muncaster, Cumberland, England
father's name: Joseph Thompson
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I03761-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1472059

presumably Mary Nicholson died?

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MARGARET STEELE Pedigree
Female Family
Burial:
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Marriages:
Spouse: JOSEPH THOMPSON Family
Marriage: 04 MAY 1836 Muncaster, Cumberland, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date

MARY NICHOLSON Pedigree
Female Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: JOSEPH THOMPSON Family
Marriage: 17 JUN 1822 Muncaster, Cumberland, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

" The Lancashire on line archive provides said marriage took place on 13 June 1822. " ....

No, it says 13th June was the date of the BOND.




Title : Marriage Bond (not marriage)


Marriage bonds and allegations only exist for couples who applied to marry by licence. They do not exist for couples who married by banns
The marriage allegation was the document in which the couple alleged (or frequently just the groom alleged on behalf of both of them) that there were no impediments to the marriage
The marriage bond set a financial penalty on the groom and his bondsman (usually a close friend or relative) in case the allegation should prove to be false

After 1823 marriage bonds were no longer made. Only the allegations were made after this date
The sum named on the bond was not the price of the marriage licence. It was the penalty sum, and was set deliberately high to deter irregular marriages

The existence of a marriage bond / allegation merely shows that a marriage licence was applied for. It does not prove that the couple ever married
Canon law stipulated that the marriage bond should state where the marriage should take place; sometimes a choice of two parishes in given. There are, however, occasions where couples seem to have disregarded this and married somewhere else entirely

here's the entry for the nicholson / thompson marriage:

Lancashire Archives
Level Item
Reference number ARR 11
Title Marriage Bond
Date 13/06/1822
Description Groom surname: Thompson
Groom forename(s): Joseph
Groom age: 29
Groom occupation/status: Gentleman
Groom marital status: Bachelor

Groom domicile:
Place 1: Brackenwall
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland


Bride surname: Nicholson
Bride forename(s): Mary
Bride age: 24
Bride marital status/occupation: Singlewoman

Bride domicile:
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland

Place of marriage:
Church: not given
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland

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the entry for the 1st thompson / steele marriage :

Repository Lancashire Archives
Level Item
Reference number ARR 11
Title Marriage Bond
Date 30/12/1835
Description Groom surname: Thompson
Groom forename(s): Joseph
Groom age: 21
Groom occupation/status: Yeoman
Groom marital status: Widower

Groom domicile:
Place 1: Brankinwall
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland


Bride surname: Steel
Bride forename(s): Margaret
Bride age: 21
Bride marital status/occupation: Spinster

Bride domicile:
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland

Place of marriage:
Church: not given
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland

Notes:

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entry for the 2nd thompson / steele marriage :

Lancashire Archives
Level Item
Reference number ARR 11
Title Marriage Bond
Date 20/04/1836
Description Groom surname: Thompson
Groom forename(s): Joseph
Groom age: 21
Groom occupation/status: Yeoman
Groom marital status: Widower

Groom domicile:
Place 1: Brankenwell
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland


Bride surname: Steele
Bride forename(s): Margaret
Bride age: 21
Bride marital status/occupation: Spinster

Bride domicile:
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland

Place of marriage:
Church: not given
Place 1: not given
Place 2: Muncaster
Place 3: Cumberland

Notes:

The Lancs link isn't working - can you copy and paste what you found?