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Thanks vera, that is some interesting additional info :) brilliant!

Just in case it jogs someones memory or otherwise. Ernest, brother of the possible Samuel b 1884/88/89 Lower Ryburgh, emigrated to Quebec Canada in 1924. He then crossed into the USA in 1928 where he was to meet up with friend Sally Young. Destination address c/o Mrs Ford, Holmhill Lodge, NJ.
Farm Labourer. Mother Mrs Sarah Thompson, Stibbard ?Guist, England.

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Ernest Thompson Name: Ernest Thompson
Arrival Date: 29 Oct 1929
Port of Arrival: Buffalo, New York, United States
Arrival Contact: Friend Sally Young
Departure Contact: Mother Sarah Thompson
Age: 31
Birth Date: 26 Mar 1898
Birth Place: Ryburgh Nfk, England
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

Vera

Could well be as he may have died just after the census!

Possible for James? The only other James in the Walsingham RD dies 1905 aged 78, but might have been out of district

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: THOMPSON, James William
Registration district: Walsingham
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1901
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 45
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 185

Thanks ann, kath and stuart! This all looks quite possible now! George is my uncles middle name too and i was told its a family name so that ties in too

Oh yes the age on the 1911 census matches the wedding cert now, i hadnt noticed that kath!

Thanks kath and stuart, its a shame i cant track samuel any farther as this would help clarify if he ended up in lincolnshire. I will run the siblings names past my relatives though and see if any ring a bell!

He obviously likes to change his age as it seems Stuart has found him!!

Kath. x

James must have died 1901/1911 as his wife is widowed on the 1911 census............looking at the original she names Samuel as being in the household and then crosses him out.........the enumerator saying he is accounted for somewhere else! However am unable to find a Samuel born Norfolk at the right age.

Samuel and older brother George in 1911?
1911 census transcription details for: Hempton Fakenham Norfolk

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN11550 RG78PN634 RD233 SD1 ED5 SN120


Reg. District: Walsingham Sub District: Fakenham
Parish: Hempton Enum. District: 5
Address: Hempton Fakenham Norfolk
County: Norfolk

Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age BirthYear Occupation Where Born
THOMPSON, Samuel No Head House Single M 22 1889 Dredgers Stibbard Norfolk
THOMPSON, George No Head House Single M 24 1887 Dredgers Stibbard Norfolk
BAILY, Charles No Head House Single M 21 1890 Dredgers East Harling Norfolk

This looks like the family from the 901 census but there is no Samuel with them:-

THOMPSON, Sarah Ann Head Widow F 51 1860 Swanton Novers Norfolk
THOMPSON, James Son Single M 25 1886 Carter Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Sidney Son Single M 18 1893 Farm Labourer Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Fred Son Single M 14 1897 Railway Porter Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Ernest Son Single M 13 1898 School Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Walter Son Single M 11 1900 School Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Edith Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Little Ryburgh Norfolk

Address:
Stibbard Guist Norfolk

Reference:
RG14PN11553 RG78PN634 RD233 SD1 ED8 SN142

Kath. x

Thanks stuart, i will look into that alongside the fact that james died pre 1916 and see what else i can find

If the family stayed in the same area of Norfolk, then they are shown in the Walsingham RD in 1891 and 1901. The birth to go with that could be
Samuel Thompson Walsingham, Norfolk Mar Qtr 1884 4B 309.He would appear to be the only Samuel Thompson b 1885 =/- 5 years in Norfolk to appear on the 1891 census

Possible kath as his bride was 6 years younger than him already with the birth he gave. They are proving an elusive family to research!

People often tell lies about their age on marriage certificates so I would take that with a pinch of salt.

However if the Norfolk born Samuel found by Vera and Ann is the correct one then his year of birth is around 1883/1884.

Kath. x

Ann and vera, i have come across that link earlier tonight too. It cold be a strong contender but i feel i think at the moment i dint have the evidence to know for certain- i will take another look at that one though since we have all thought it a possibility! Im sure its possible that his birth date is not correct on the census too. Thank you ladies :)

Hi kath , oh dear, i think i may have the wrong death then because.according to his marriage cert it would make his birth about 1888. Getting myself all tied up with this one!

Maybe be worth keeping/ has farming and Norwich connection also James as father of Samuel.???????

Clutching at straws here!!



THOMPSON, James Head Married M 44 1857 Cattleman On Farm
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Sarah Wife Married F 42 1859
Swanton Novers
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, George Son Single M 18 1883 Iron Moulder
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Samuel Son Single M 17 1884 Cattleman On Farm
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, James Son Single M 15 1886 Teamster On Farm
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Sarah Daughter Single F 13 1888
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Sidney Son Single M 7 1894
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Fred Son Single M 4 1897
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Ernest Son Single M 3 1898
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Walter Son Single M 2 1899
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Alfred Son Single M 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW

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Piece:
1876 Folio:
166 Page:
19 Registration District:
Walsingham

Civil Parish:
Stibbard Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Street, Stibbard, Little Ryburgh County:
Norfolk

??? James a Cattleman on Farm as was Samuel. Dob for Samuel possibly out. Maybe the Norwich connection. One son Ernest possibly emigratedto Canada then the USA.

1901 England Census
about Samuel Thompson Name: Samuel Thompson
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Thompson
Mother's Name: Sarah Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Ryburgh, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Little Ryburgh
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Ryburgh All Saints and Great Ryburgh St Andrew
Town: Little Ryburgh
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England


Registration district: Walsingham
Sub-registration district: Fakenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 1876
Folio: 166
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
James Thompson 44
Sarah Thompson 42
George Thompson 18
Samuel Thompson 17
James Thompson 15
Sarah Thompson 13
Sidney Thompson 7
Fred Thompson 4
Ernest Thompson 3
Walter Thompson 2
Alfred Thompson 2 Months

Vera

Possible birth:-

Name: THOMPSON, Samuel
Registration district: Caistor
County: Lincolnshire
Year of registration: 1882
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 7A
Page no:690

Kath. x