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I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to find the parents of Patrick Mckenna.
According to his World War I record & Death Certificate (in my possession), he was born approximately February 1890 in Dungannon, Tyrone, Northern Ireland. Again, according to these records, his parents were Arthur McKenna & Margaret McQuigan. Patrick emigrated to Australia in 1902 and married Ethel Kirk at the end of World War I.
My difficulty is that I can find no record of Arthur McKenna & margaret McGuigan in Northern Island. I realise the spelling may be different, but haven't found anything very close.
I believe Patrick may have had 3 sisters, Rachel, Mary Anne & Margaret who emigrated to Australia before Patrick did. Rachel married a P. McCarthy in Australia and a McCarthy is listed as his "aunt" on his war record which is confusing.
So far I have tried ancestry, familysearch & emeraldancestors.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Tania

What makes you think that Rachel, Mary Anne and Margaret were Patrick's sisters?
If Rachel was noted as his aunt, then could it not be that the girtls were actually his father's sisters?
If he didn't leave for Australia until 1902, then have you found him in 1901 Ireland census?
Does he give Arthur as his father on his marriage certificate?

As Patrick would only have been 12 years old in 1902, have you found who was with him on his trip to Australia or did he travel on his own please?

Could the girls actually have been his cousins?

This census has three sisters with the names you have but not in Tyrone so could be a red herring.

Residents of a house 4 in Clonfad (Clonkeelan, Fermanagh)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

McKenna John 73 Male Relation Roman Catholic Newbliss Farmer Read and write English Not Married -
McKenna Patrick 40 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Newbliss Farmer Read and write English Married -
McKenna Mary 37 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Cavan - Read and write English Married -
McKenna Mary Anne 16 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Newbliss Scholar Read and write Irish and English Not Married -
McKenna John Joseph 13 Male Son Roman Catholic Newbliss Scholar Read and write English and Irish Not Married -
McKenna Rachel Alice 11 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Ballyshannon Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
McKenna Maggie 9 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Relluk Scholar Read English Not Married -
McKenna Elizabeth 7 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Clones Scholar Read English Not Married -
McKenna Rose May 4 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Clones Scholar Cannot read English Not Married -
McKenna Teresa Frances 2 Female Daughter Roman Catholic

Probably not that family as Rachel and Maggie still in Ireland in 1911

Residents of a house 2 in Clonfad (Clonkeelan, Fermanagh)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living

Mc Kenna Patrick 53 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Monaghan Railway Mason Read and write English Married - - 7 7
Mc Kenna Mary 47 Female Wife Roman Catholic Cavan - Read and write English Married - 26 - -
Mc Kenna John Joseph 23 Male Son Roman Catholic Monaghan At Home on Farm Write and read English Single - - - -
Mc Kenna Rachael Alice 21 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Donegal Lace Maker Read and write English Single - - - -
Mc Kenna Maggie Josephine 19 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Donegal - Cannot read or write English Single - - - -
Mc Kenna Elizabeth Kathleen 17 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Monaghan Scholars Read and write English and Irish Single - - - -
Mc Kenna Rose Mary 14 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Fermanagh - Read and write English and Irish Single - - - -
Mc Kenna Teresa Francis 12 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Fermanagh - Read and write English and Irish Single - - - -

Mary Ann Mckenna housewife emigrated 15th April 1895 to Australia, with her was Rachel Mckenna adult & Margt McKenna adult

Rachel McKenna married Peter Patrick McCarthy 28th June 1908 Queenisland,

Good morning! Apologies for my delay in adding back to this thread. It has been night-time here in Australia.
I cannot find Patrick on the 1901 Irish Census, which is strange, because I am pretty sure he travelled at age 13 on the Duke of Norfolk in 1902, travelling from London to Townsville. I wonder if he was already in England perhaps.
I cannot find any other family members on the ship.

Here are the details, as far as I know, about the 3 girls who might be related to Patrick McKenna.

Mary Ann Mckenna: According to her marriage certificate her parents were Patrick McKenna and Margaret McQuinn. She was born in Ireland in approximately 1873 and married Alexander Sommerville in Rockhampton (Queensland) in 1903. The witness on Mary Ann's marriage certificate in Rachel McKenna.

Rachel McKenna: According to her marriage certificate her parents were Arthur McKenna and Margaret McQuigan. She married Peter McCarthy in 1908 in Queensland. From her death certificate she was born in 1877 and arrived in Australia approximately 1897.

Margaret McKenna: According to her marriage certificate her parents were Laben McKenna and Margaret McQueen. She was born in Omah (near Dungannon) in approximately 1876.

Thank you Maura for that shipping record - that looks like it might be correct. I'll have a closer look.

As you can see, the 3 girls were born in the 1870s in Tyrone, so Patrick was much younger, and may well be a cousin or step-brother?? What do you think?

Thank you Maura. I believe that shipping record is correct, the "India" in 1895 carrying the 3 girls (? sisters) Maggie, Mary Ann & Rachel.

Still no luck with finding Patrick McKenna in Ireland though. The 1901 has a Patrick McKenna aged 11 staying with an aunt (Matilda) in Glenlark (Tyrone) but it is hard to confirm whether or not this might be him.

I think we can discount any McKennas found on the 1911 Census as I'm positive Patrick and the girls had all left by then.

The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=BRITISH_ISLES

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

Many thanks mgnv, I'll have a look.

I can't find Patrick or his (?) sisters on the above index. So far I have looked on the database through ancestry, emeraldancestors, familysearch as well as the records provided online through the Irish archives. Does anyone have any other suggestions for records from Tyrone?
Many thanks

I can't find Patrick or his (?) sisters on the above index. So far I have looked on the database through ancestry, emeraldancestors, familysearch as well as the records provided online through the Irish archives. Does anyone have any other suggestions for records from Tyrone?
Many thanks

I've been having another look at 1901 Irish census and found this one, born Tyrone but doesn't state where ? :-


Residents of a house 27 in Crouck (Glenlark, Tyrone)


Mc Kenna Matilda 60 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Tyrone Farmer Wife Read Irish and English Married

Mc Kenna John 30 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Tyrone Farmer Son Cannot read Irish and English Not Married

Mc Kenna Patrick 11 Male Nephew Roman Catholic Co Tyrone Farm Servant Read and write English Not Married

There is a Mary Ann McKenna born 1873 Tyrone with parents Patrick and mother Margaret but mmn is not McQuinn ?

MARY ANN Female

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Event(s):
Birth: 10 OCT 1873 139, Fivemiletown, Tyrone, Ireland

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Parents:
Father: PATRICK MC KENNA
Mother: MARGARET DOUGLAS


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C739133 1873 0255890 Film NONE

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..........strange that the three girls all seem to have the same mother (although the name is never spelt exactly the same) , but they all have a different father ??

Someone else was looking, too:
http://www.cousinconnect.com/d/a/79813

Thank you for your interest and assistance.

Regarding finding Patrick McKenna in the 1901 Census, I think the one mentioned about, nephew of Matilda McKenna is a definite possibility. There aren't many 12/13 year old Patrick McKenna's to choose from, and this one seems to disappear before the 1911 census, which fits with him leaving for Australia, presumably to join his much older sisters (or half-sisters, cousins?)

As to the parents names, I remain confused.
To recap
Mary Ann Mckenna (b 1873) daughter of Patrick McKenna and Margaret McQuinn
Rachel McKenna (b Dungannon 1877) daughter of Arthur McKenna and Margaret McQuigan
Margaret McKenna (b Omah 1876) daughter of Laben McKenna and Margaret McQueen

The 3 girls travelled on the "India" to Mackay in 1895 and descendants with whom I have made contact believe they were sisters (although they don't know any more than what I have explained already).

Thank you Joy for the cousinconnect reference. I'll have a look.

There also seem to be another Patrick Mckenna

Died 1925 Queensland
Father Arthur Mckenna
Mother Margaret McGuggan

Found this, could be related

IHS. Erected by Patrick McKenna, Queensland in affectionate remembrance of his father Arthur who died 1858 aged 50 years and of his sister. Bridget who died 1880 aged 26 years and of his following relatives Peter McGuison, grandfather, who died 1864 aged 62 years and Sarah, grandmother, who died 1872, aged 60 years. Bernard McGuigan, uncle who died 1891, aged 49 years and Mary, Aunt, who died 1892, aged 46 years.

Graveyard Name : Killeeshil RC?

County : Tyrone

Civil Parish : Donaghmore

Town / Townland : Tullyallen

Margaret McKenna (b Omah 1876) daughter of Laben McKenna and Margaret McQueen

Omah is Omagh

Thanks Maura

That's very strange that there is another Patrick McKenna who died in 1925 Queensland with the same parents as my Patrick McKenna who definitely died in 1961

I wonder if my Patrick McKenna may have been the illegitimate son of one of the girls (Rachel, Margaret, Mary) and he was raised by his grandparents or other family members, believing Arthur McKenna and Margaret McGuigan / McGuggan to be his parents?

Is that record you found in the Qld BMD Maura? I'll check it out

Thanks for the Tyrone gravestone information too. Very interesting. I wonder if I can connect them in?