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not sure who is mother is and wont find that out till i have his birth cert.i found om free bmd a william henry worrall born 1845 wolverhampton

As I put, I cannot see a birth for him on free bmd.
However, if Phebe is his sister, then that could be her birth certificate.
Suggest you look at all your threads to sort out.
It could be that William is with his Mother in 1851 (and Phebe), and then on his own, as posted elsewhere, in 1861, so that he never appears with Father.
I looked for births for William in Dudley to see if anything looked like Worrall or Merrall or anything in-between. Phebe looks better.

anyone???

not seen this record patchem,neew to me

anyone know what birth record i should be looking at so i can order the cert.do i follow the marrage cert ive got dated 1865 and his age on it is 20 so would make him born 1845?

From jonesey's link (because I cannot post to it)
MarieCeleste gave:
COOPER, David Head Married M 42 1809 Engineer Tipton Staffordshire
COOPER, Mary Wife Married F 39 1812 Ireland
COOPER, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1838 Bilston Staffordshire
COOPER, Caroline Daughter F 7 1844 Bilston Staffordshire
COOPER, David Son M 5 1846 Tipton Staffordshire
WORRALD, Ann Visitor Married F 36 1815 Brick Maker Tipton Staffordshire
WORRALD, Phoebe Daughter F 7 1844 Tipton Staffordshire
>>WORRALD, William Son M 5 1846 Tipton Staffordshire
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Registration District: Walsall Civil Parish: Darlaston
Address: Cramp Hill Bank, Darlaston County: Staffordshire

Is this the Phebe
Births Mar 1843
Worrall Phebe Dudley 18 362

as I cannot see a birth for William

maddie yes i saw that age is about right.profession is miner which on his marrage cert is same.Im thinking did he just put down william worrall as father? i thought his father was a thomas worrall from breckonshire

think im going to order his birth cert but dont know to take his date of birth from marrage cert so tht make him born 1845

1861 maybe
PERKS, William Head Married M 47 1814 Nail Maker
Darlaston
Staffordshire VIEW
LEXTON, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 30 1831 General Servant
Darlaston
Staffordshire VIEW
WORRALL, William Boarder Unmarried M 15 1846 Coal Miner
Tipton
Staffordshire VIEW
WALKER, George Lodger Widower M 67 1794 Nail Maker
Darlaston
Staffordshire VIEW
Piece:
2010 Folio:
39 Page:
19 Registration District:
Walsall

Civil Parish:
Darlaston Municipal Borough:
Address:
Bilston Street, Darlaston County:
Staffordshire

??/ 1861 census
Name: William Worrell
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Worrell
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Worrell
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 1994
Folio: 107
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William Worrell 34 occ pudler
Mary Ann Worrell 32
William Worrell 12
Eliza Worrell 10
Richard Worrell 8
Jane Worrell 7
Samuel Worrell 6
Hugh Worrell 3
Ellen Worrell 1 9 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1994; Folio: 107; Page: 7; GSU roll: 542899.

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tryin to find williams parents on the marrage cert i have of theirs his farthers ame is down as william worrall but cant find anyone with that name

Could you post the 1871 census with William and Jane?
Thanks

Added:
This?
1871 England Census
William Worrell Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Worrell
Gender: Male Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Willenhall Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 2942 Folio: 67 Page Number: 7
William Worrell 25
Jane Worrell 24
Mary Worrell 3
Sarah Worrell 1
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2942; Folio: 67; Page: 7; GSU roll: 836419.

Added:
Also claims 1846 Tipton in 1891 census.

Hey guys back into doing my tree.I have got a wedding cert of a william worrall to a jane bucknall on 1865.William was 20 at the time of marriage.Bot residance in bilston at time of marriage. Looks like the word for profession for him is miner.His fathers name on the cert is william worrall and looks like he to is a miner.Problem ive got is cant find on any census with a william worrall as a miner with a son named william.Ive found a thomas but completly different name.Any ideas??