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Thats so strange, that was the reason I couldnt find a thing about this family until 1911 census released and I found him and then I am able to go back further with everyone's and your helps. x

Yes it has confused me and it WILL confuse my Dad!

Leonard Stanyard married Cecila Isabella Denman in 1865 and they kept the name Stanyard, but for some reason his son Frederick christened his children Stanyard Denham and at some point they seem to have dropped Stanyard completely.

This name change is on the census records not just Ancestry. Families sometimes do this and I sometimes think it is just to confuse their descendants!! :-)

Hello? x

I wondered why on Ancestry we are using Stanyard not Denman which is easy to find? Can anyone answer this?

Thanks

Looks like Isabella was a Bunting pre marrying John Stanyard (although I can't see a marriage to John at the moment) The birth is from Family Search

ISABELLA BUNTING Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
16 MAR 1815
Christening:
15 OCT 1815 Matlock, Derby, England

Parents:
Father: LEONARD BUNTING Family
Mother: ELLEN

1861

Name: Leonard Bunting
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Bunting
Gender: Male
Where born: Matlock, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Matlock
Ecclesiastical parish: Litchfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bakewell
Sub-registration district: Matlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 2542
Folio: 93
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Leonard Bunting 74
Ellen Bunting 71


And this looks like Mary Ann Bunting's christening from Family Search

parents: Isabella Bunting

name: Mary Ann Wheatcroft Bunting
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 26 May 1833
baptism/christening place: MATLOCK,DERBY,ENGLAND
birth date: 19 Nov 1832
mother's name: Isabella Bunting
indexing project (batch) number: C05557-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 428924, 49810

This looks like him im 1861

Name: Leonard Stanyard
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Stanyard
Mother's Name: Isabella Stanyard
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Chesterfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 321
Piece: 2527
Folio: 88
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
John Stanyard 44 Loughbro, Leicestershire,
Isabella Stanyard 46 Matlock, Derbyshire
Herbert Stanyard 20
John Stanyard 18
Leonard Stanyard 16
Samuel Stanyard 14
Ellen Stanyard 10
Thomas Stanyard 8
Eliza Stanyard 6
William Fox 22 lodger


1851 The two children listed as "in laws" were probably step children

Name: Lenard Stanyard
Age: 5b
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Stanyard
Mother's Name: Isabella Stanyard
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Chesterfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 2147
Folio: 371
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Stanyard 34
Isabella Stanyard 36
Herbert Stanyard 10
John Stanyard 7
Lenard Stanyard 5
Samuel Stanyard 3
Ellen Stanyard 6 Mo
Mary Ann Bunting 18 Daughter in law
Joseph Bunting 13 Son in law

Can you find anything on Leonard on 1851 census? I couldnt seem to find him? :(

Thank you K!

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Nudge

I will speak to Dad later tonight. Because he possibly remembered few people such as his great aunts and uncles names. I already told him that I need his Mum's original birth cert to confirm her parents names. x

Hmmm thank you Gins for this. Like I said before I will order the birth certs for Frederick and Mary (his wife) and they will then reveal their parents' names.

I will print this thread and keep it for future refences. :)

Heres the Denman connection


Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
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Denman Belicia Isabella Chesterfield 7b 1019 <<<<<
Hays Elizabeth Chesterfield 7b 1019
Longden William Chesterfield 7b 1019
Stanyard Leonard Chesterfield 7b 1019

Cecilia Isabella Denman <<<<Correct name!
Marriage: Oct 1865 - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

1871 England Census
about Frederick Stanyard
Name: Frederick Stanyard
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Loughborough
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Loughborough
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Loughborough
Sub-registration district: Loughborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 3257
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10

Also a possible brother Thomas aged one & Adelaide age six

1881 England Census
about Fredrick Stanyard
Name: Fredrick Stanyard
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Leonard Stanyard
Mother's Name: Celicia Stanyard
Gender: Male
Where born: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Lenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: 18 Tyne St

Occupation: Lace Maker Threader

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Lenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3340
Folio: 105
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Leonard Stanyard 36
Celicia Stanyard 35
Fredrick Stanyard 14 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Adelaide Stanyard 12

Marriages Sep 1889
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GREASLEY Fanny Margaret Nottingham 7b 303
Stanyard Frederick Horatio Nottingham 7b 303


Looks like his parents marriage, which ties in with a tree on Ancestry

Hmmm interesting! I might order frederick's birth cert after all. :)

Thank you fgor your help. x

I found the father on FMP...not sure which site Ozi used.....possibly Ancestry, looking at the layout

All of the children aged between 6 and 12 were attending school

Thanks ozibird. Was Frederick in school ?

BMD is only for births, marriages and deaths.

You're not thick, just learning. We all had to start somewhere.

Ozi