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It may be that William and Emma didn't marry, but I may obtain the marriage of William and Emma Rayner to investigate further (I know William's father and that he was a Millwright engineer). The alternative is to try and find out where I can search the church records for East Dereham.

1891 England Census about Emma J Matthews
Name: Emma J Matthews
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Matthews
Gender: Female
Where born: Gressenhall, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Southgate
Town: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Conisford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1524
Folio: 77
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
William Matthews 45 occ millwright
Emma J Matthews 38
Emma J Matthews 19
William J Matthews 18
Arthur C Matthews 16
Eva S Matthews 15
Estella M Matthews 12
Anna E Matthews 11
Frances E Matthews 10
Albert L Matthews 7
Victor C Matthews 5
Louis E Matthews Infant

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1524; Folio: 77; Page: 15; GSU roll: 6096634.



so born 1853 and having a child in 1872 she would have been c19 when the child was born so a bit young to have been married and widowed. not impossible but ??

iew Record Elizabeth Matthews Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Mitford Norfolk
View Record George Pearse Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Mitford Norfolk
View Record Charles Rix Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Mitford Norfolk
View Record Susanah Smith Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Mitford Norfolk
View Record Susannah Smith Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Mitford Norf

This is Estella in the 1881 census - she was staying with her aunt and uncle (Elizabeth Rix nee Matthews - William's sister).

No I haven't. There was a Emma Caroline Harman born around the same time (1852) but its not the same Emma as I've looked into her marriage etc. There are a few Emma Harmans and Emma Rayners in the 1861 census but not born in 1852 and its a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. My Emma was born in Gressenhall, Norfolk.

wonder what the connection was ?

1881 England Census about Estella Matthews
Name: Estella Matthews
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: East Dereham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address: Commercial Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Mitford
Sub-registration district: East Dereham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1979
Folio: 110
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Rix 45
Elizth. Rix 39
Elizth. Rix 17
Chas. Rix 13
Julia Rix 11
Wm. Rix 10
George Rix 7
Arthur Rix 6
Agnes Rix 3
Estella Matthews 2>>>>>

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1979; Folio: 110; Page: 38; GSU roll: 1341476.

She may have been married before. have you found her on any census prior to the children s births

Hi
I'm trying to find the marriage of William Matthews born 1844 in East Dereham. I have details of his wife from the birth certificate of their daughter, Estella May Matthews born 1878 and her name was Emma Harman. However I have looked on ancestry and some other sites and cannot find a marriage for William and Emma. Their first child, Emma Matthews was born in 1872. I have found a marriage in 1871 for a William Matthews and Emma Rayner and I suppose there may be a chance that the surname has been written down wrongly? Can anybody help.
Thanks
Carole