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Nancy & first family in 1881:

1881 England Census
about Edward Shaw Name: Edward Shaw
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Shaw
Mother's name: Nancy Shaw
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 8 Chapels Court
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4773
Folio: 129
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
George Shaw 25
Nancy Shaw 23
James Shaw 4
Francis Shaw 2
Edward Shaw
Wm. Carmichel 15

4 year old James is actually Jane, daughter. Edward is 3 months old. Wm. Carmichel is listed as boarder.

Nancy's first marriage?

Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
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Carmichael Nancy Hull 9d 331
Guy Mary Ann Hull 9d 331
Shaw George Hull 9d 331
Speechley Robert Hull 9d 331

It looks like he married Nancy Shaw in 1888. Was she previously married?

Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
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Lawrence Harry Hull 9d 322
Shaw Nancy Hull 9d 322
STRAKER George Fox Hull 9d 322
Watson Ann Hull 9d 322

in 1881 he was a reporter
LAWRENCE, Henry Head Married M 54 1827 Lace Agent
Nottingham VIEW
LAWRENCE, Rebecca Wife Married F 53 1828 Wife
Nottingham VIEW
LAWRENCE, Henry Son Single M 21 1860 Newspaper Reporter
Nottingham VIEW
LILO, Lillian G Grand Daughter Single F 5 1876
Nottingham VIEW

Piece: 3365

Folio: 73

Page: 10

Registration District: Nottingham

Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary

Municipal Borough:

Address: 106, Victoria Ter Queens Walk, Nottingham St Mary

County: Nottinghamshire

In 1901 he had a 20 year old son but you say he married in 1888? Was he previously married?

Also on the 91 census there's a daughter Jane born 1877.

Harry in 1871, which you said you couldn't find. Father is a Lace Agent.

1871 census transcription details for: Mansfield Road, St Mary, Nottingham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3515
Folio: 53
Page: 21
Reg. District: Nottingham
Sub District: St Ann
Parish: St Mary
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Nottingham
Address: Mansfield Road, St Mary, Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LAWRENCE, Henry Head M 44 1827 Nottinghamshire
LAWRENCE, Rebecca Wife F 43 1828 Nottinghamshire
LAWRENCE, Emily Daughter F 19 1852 Nottinghamshire
LAWRENCE, Herbert Son M 16 1855 Nottinghamshire
LAWRENCE, Harry Son M 12 1859 Nottinghamshire
COE, Elizabeth Servant F 17 1854 Derbyshire

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1901


Name: Harry Lawrence
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nancy Lawrence
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Piece: 4504
Folio: 149
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Lawrence 43
Nancy Lawrence 44
Edward Lawrence 20
Amy Lawrence 15
Lavinia Lawrence 8


He is not shown in the same household as Nancy in either 1891 or 1911

Look for the rest of the family in 1871 - check whether he is mistranscribed - or simply not recorded.

I wouldn't have thought he'd be 'at sea' at the age of 12 - although 'never say never'

However, there is a vast difference between mining engineer and lace agent - have you taken a wrong turning somewhere?

Was his father apparently living when he married in 1888?

Harry Lawrence was born in 1859, he married Nancy Carmichael in Hull in 1888, however on his marriage certificate it shows his father as being a Mining engineer, the line I have been following is one that shows his father as a lace agent. Harry was born in Nottingham. I have checked census records for 61/81/91/01 and 1911 but can find no trace of him on the 1871 census. His occupation is shown as a marine fireman on his marriage cert., maybe he was at sea, can any one help in locating him in 1871. thanks