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George Denton/ Day marriage, Yorkshire, c. 1846

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Helix14

Helix14 Report 8 Jul 2012 11:08

Dear Mike*,Sylvia,Astra, Reggie,
Thank you all for your replies.
I don't know how to remove that blessed tick from Mike*'s answer earlier, having misunderstood the purpose of the tick--still do.
I see that I may have been working from the Birth Certificate of a different Jane Denton, in which case I must start again from the beginning, with the Ecclesfield Jane.
"My" Jane Denton married Henry Albert lodge in 1865 and their son Albert, who is recorded on the reply from Mike* on the 1881 Census return, is my grandfather. Jane died in 1924.The family lived at Staincross, Barnsley.



Helix14

Helix14 Report 8 Jul 2012 10:35

Dear Mike*,
Thank you for your reply about possibly the wrong Jane Denton. I am trying to find out how to remove the "Mark as answered" tick from your earlier reply, as it does not appear to be straightforward. I misunderstood the tick's function--still do.
"My" Jane Denton lived till 1925, and she married Henry Albert Lodge in 1865; the 10year-old "Alb" at Staincross is my grandfather. If I have been working from the wrong birth Certificate, I need to start again from the beginning.
Thank you for making me aware of this possibility.
Helix 14.





ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jul 2012 09:13

1861

Name: George Denton
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Denton
Gender: Male
Where born: Darton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Darton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Darton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 3442
Folio: 57
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Denton 52
Mary Denton 50
Charles Denton 17
Eliza Denton 7
Henry White 17
Eliza White 15
Thomas White 12

The WHITE children are STEP-children

Hannah must have died, and George re-married

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jul 2012 09:11

This MAY be the marriage of George's parents.........

West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 about Martha Truelove
Name: Martha Truelove
Parish: Darton, All Saints
Spouse's Name: George Denton

1841

Name: Martha Denton
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Darton
Hundred: Staincross
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ecclesfield
Sub-registration district: Cawthorne
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1323
Book: 6
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
George Denton 65
Martha Denton 55

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jul 2012 08:58

???????????

1861

Name: Jane Denton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Darton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Ashton under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 2983
Folio: 101
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lee 37
Catherine Lee 39
Mary Lee 12
James Henry Lee 10
Amelia Lee 6
William Lee 4
Emily Augusta 1
Jane Denton 13

Name: Jane Danton
Parish: Darton, All Saints
Baptism Date: 6 Aug 1848
Father's Name: George Danton
Mother's name: Hannah Danton


1851


Name: Jane Denton
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Darton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Darton
Ecclesiastical parish: Monk Bretton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Darton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 2332
Folio: 92
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Denton 69
George Denton 42....AG LAB
Hannah Denton 38......born Clayton, Yorks
William Denton 11
Martha Denton 9
Charles Denton 7
Jane Denton 3


Charles Denton Darton, All Saints 2 Jun 1844 George Denton,
Hannah Denton

Eliza Denton Darton, All Saints 28 Sep 1856 George Denton,
Hannah Denton

Martha Denton Darton, All Saints 3 Apr 1842 George Denton,
Hannah Denton

Alfred Denton 19 Aug 1837 Darton, All Saints 5 Nov 1837 George Denton,
Hannah Denton

William Denton 12 Nov 1839 Darton, All Saints 25 Dec 1839 George Denton,
Hannah Denton

What is George's occupation on Jane's marriage cert?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jul 2012 08:52

The correct Jane may not even have had her birth registered

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Jul 2012 00:52

Helix


please remove the tick from that posting by Mike


Your question has NOT been answered, but the tick is showing, and that identifies this thread as being complete.

Thus people will no longer open it.



Thank you




sylvia

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jul 2012 00:48

My guess is that Jane's marriage cert to Mr Lodge states her father as George, and Helix has plumped for the wrong George. and bought the wrong birth cert for Jane.

The PM is still unopened

Astra

Astra Report 7 Jul 2012 19:41

The marriage to Henry Lodge in Barnsley in 1865 is the one I checked out earlier. It seems to meet all of the criteria. It's just that Helix is following the wrong Jane and it would be a shame for him to continue adding family to his tree which are incorrect. Good idea to send him a PM as he hasn't returned to the thread.

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jul 2012 17:51

As this thread is marked as answered ... and I'm not at all confident about it , I've sent a PM asking for more info about Jane's marriage




I suspect this may be the marriage of Jane's parents


Marriages Jun 1842 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BASHFORTH John Ecclesfield 22 97
DENTON George - Ecclesfield 22 97 <<<<<<
HAXBY Hannah - Ecclesfield 22 97 <<<<<<<
HORNE Edward Ecclesfield 22 97
HOYLAND Mary Ecclesfield 22 97
NAYSON Elizabeth Ecclesfield 22 97
PARKER Catharine Ecclesfield 22 97
TOWNEND William Ecclesfield 22 97

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jul 2012 14:40

Is this your Jane by any chance ?


Jane Lodge
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1847
Birthplace: Darton, Yorkshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Condition: Married
Profession/Occupation:
Address: Staincross
Census Place: Darton, Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Head Henry Lodge M 36 Emley, Yorkshire, England
Wife Jane Lodge F 34 Darton, Yorkshire, England
Son Alb Lodge M 10 Darton, Yorkshire, England
Chas Lodge M 4 Darton, Yorkshire

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jul 2012 14:32

This is likely to be the Jane born Ecclesfield ( which covers Darton and Barnsley)


Jane Denton

Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Aug 1848
Baptism/Christening Place: Darton, York, England
:
Father's Name: George Denton

Mother's Name: Hannah

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jul 2012 14:25


There are 2 births for Jane Denton in Wakefield area

The Jane born to George and Martha must be the one that died which is why she's not on 1851 census.

Could your Jane be the one born Ecclesfield ?


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Births Dec 1847
DENTON Jane - Ecclesfield 22 142
DENTON Jane - Wakefield 22 654




which marriage is your Jane ?


Marriages Jun 1865
Denton Jane - Sunderland 10a 60_

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Dec 1865
Denton Jane - Islington 1b 436
Denton Jane - Barnsley 9c 256

Astra

Astra Report 7 Jul 2012 14:15

This is maybe why she isn't on the census!

Deaths Mar 1848 (>99%)

Denton Jane Wakefield 22 533


Who did your Jane marry?

Helix14

Helix14 Report 7 Jul 2012 14:04

Thank you, Mike*, I will try that next time I have the Brick Wall.

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jul 2012 14:01

For pre 1837 registration look for parish records in

www.familysearch.org

Not all parish records are included though

Helix14

Helix14 Report 7 Jul 2012 13:50

Thank you. Reggie, Glitterbaby and Mike. Your findings are very useful. I suppose Jane must have been missed off the 1851 Census, lost in the crowd of siblings?
How did you find the pre-GRO data (for future reference) please?
Many thanks.
From Helix14.

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Jul 2012 22:54

The Banns were 9th march

Actual wedding 24th March


Groom's Name: George Denton
:
Bride's Name: Martha Day
:
Marriage Date: 24 Mar 1834
Marriage Place: Sandal Magna,York,England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2012 22:46

1841


Name: Sarah Denton
Age: 8 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Walton
Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Sandal
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1270
Book: 4
Folio: 9
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
George Denton 35
Martha Denton 30
Marya Hannah Denton 1**************** Image is 7
Elizabeth Denton 5
Ann Denton 2
Sarah Denton 8 Mo

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2012 22:38

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Martha Day
Name: Martha Day
Marriage or Bann Date: 9 Mar 1834
Parish: Sandal Magna, St Helen
Spouse's Name: George Denton