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Tracey

Tracey Report 3 Aug 2012 19:44

Thank you for the help :)

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 17:40

Mary's mom married a William Close in 1862, by the looks lof it


1871 England Census
about Dinah Close
Name: Dinah Close
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Close
Gender: Female
Where born: Rimswell, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Owthorne
Ecclesiastical parish: York
Town: Rimswell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 4799
Folio: 85
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
William Close 43
Dinah Close 42
William H Close 42
John A Close 7
Mary E Close 4



Guess Im going over things that you already know? Best stop it now!

Tracey

Tracey Report 3 Aug 2012 17:26

Sorry, haven't seen her called that on the census. Just heard of it from family. Think that's all I have for now.

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 16:46

You didnt mention the 'Castle' connection before?


Every little bit of info helps, have you got anything else?

Tracey

Tracey Report 3 Aug 2012 16:25

Hi I've only found Mary in the census already mentioned. She was born Mary Nicholson but stayed with her grandparents a lot who were Castles so was often thought of as Castle also.

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 16:16


From a tree at Ancestry

Ebor Benson
Benson family tree from Gedcom
Birth: 1889 - England
Marriage: 1910
Death: 1968
Parents: Joseph Benson, Mary Castle <<<<<<<
Spouse: Alice Maud Scarah


Which fits with Castle connection I found earlier

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 16:09

Tracey


Have you managed to find Mary in other censuses other than the ones already posted?

Tracey

Tracey Report 3 Aug 2012 15:54

Hi,
sorry had to be away from the computer for a while.Thank you for all the help. Marys was definitely born Nicholson and on the 1891 census with Ebor aged 1 (my grandfather) Joseph is listed as stepson. Both Joseph and John are later staying at Mary and Josephs home as adults with Johns wife Susan. For a long time I thought Patrick Rayhill and Mary Morgan were the correct family but Morgan is the wrong maiden name and her birth year was way out. Also there were too many siblings in that family. Coincidentally though on Johns marriage cert of 1898 his father was a shoemaker the same as Patrick Rayhill. I also have struggled to find any marriage info between Joseph Benson and Mary Nicholson.
All very complicated and not sure I will ever get too the truth but appreciate all the suggestions.

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 11:41

Have you got Johns marriage certificate?



Marriages Sep 1898
-----------------------------

Harris Susan Medway 2a 1228 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Kellie Robert Walter M Medway 2a 1228
McIntyre Annie Medway 2a 1228
Ryill John Edward Medway 2a 1228 <<<<<<<<<<<
RYILL Johnedward Medway 2a 1228

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 11:00

1861 England Census
about Mary Ann Nicholson
Name: Mary Ann Nicholson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Mothernsea, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Easington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 3599
Folio: 83
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
William Johnson 36
Nancy Johnson 37
Susanna Johnson 11
Alfred Johnson 9
George Wm Johnson 7
Emma Johnson 4
Ralph Percy Johnson 2
Mary Ann Nicholson 14 <<<<<<<<


Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 10:53

1861 England Census
about Jane Sowarby
Name: Jane Sowarby
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Holmpton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rimswell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 18a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 3600
Folio: 43
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Castle 74
Dinah Castle 32
Jane Sowarby 10


Seems Dinah was a bit of 'a one'!!!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Aug 2012 10:48

Based purely on birth location..............and probably a complete red herring

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
Edmund Thomas Patrington 9d 416
Nicholson Mary Ann Patrington 9d 416
Shipley Robert Patrington 9d 416
Stephenson Elizabeth Patrington 9d 416

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 10:42

1851 England Census
about Mary Ann Nicholson
Name: Mary Ann Nicholson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Withernsea, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rimswell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 2364
Folio: 274
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Castle 65
Nancey Castle 60
Dinah Castle 22 <<Daughter
Mary Ann Nicholson 4


Looks like Mary Ann was the child of Dinah?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Aug 2012 10:41

This is the birth of the child on 1881 census

Name: Joseph Rayhill
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1880
Registration district: Sunderland
Inferred County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 561

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Aug 2012 10:36

If you obtain this birth cert, you should learn Mary's maiden name.....assuming she gave accurate info


Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Benson Ebor Hull 9d 282

Gee

Gee Report 3 Aug 2012 10:26

Great minds Reggie ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Aug 2012 10:26

Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
Davison Sarah Auckland 10a 818
MILLS Smith Sunderland 10a 818
MORGAN Mary Rebecca Sunderland 10a 818
Rayhill Patrick Sunderland 10a 818
Watt Ann Sunderland 10a 818

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Aug 2012 10:22

1891

Name: Jos P Ryhill
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Mary A Benson
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3941
Folio: 70
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Benson 34..........born Ampleforth, Yorks
Mary A Benson 40..........born Withernsea, Yorks
Jos P Ryhill 11
Elizabeth Benson 3
Ebor Benson 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Aug 2012 10:19

When and where did Joseph Benson marry Mary?

I can't at the moment find any record of such an event having taken place

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Aug 2012 10:18

Could this be Joseph in 1881??

No John though

1881 England Census
about Joseph Ryhill
Name: Joseph Ryhill
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Patrick Ryhill
Mother's Name: Mary Ryhill
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 36 Church St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: West Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5002
Folio: 103
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Ryhill 33 Ireland (Shoemaker)
Mary Ryhill 24 Durham
Annie Ryhill 4
Joseph Ryhill 1
Mary Morgan 63 (Mother in Law)