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Janice and Tempest,
Just thought I should say.... you are doing a fantastic job on this one.
I am so rooting for Happydaze and that she gets her answers quickly.
Just a thought... With any luck, those parents will be buried in Lewisham and if so, who owns the grave?
I am hoping it is their recently deceased son, and that there is space for him too.

Good luck
Anne

I've e-mailed Lewisham to see if they can tell me where William and Wilhelmina are buried. There may be family info on a headstone.

Back to Scotland then :-(

EDIT Actually those Lewisham deaths are too good a match and I think they must be correct. The names are right and the dates of birth match the ones found on Scotlands People. So at some stage, they have moved south.

although there is a marriage of Kenneth W Robson to June E P Doughty in Lewisham in 1954

and William A Robson to Nina D Doughty in Ilford in1944

so I may be barking up the wrong tree (as it were) on the births

I can't find them on the electoral registers

were there links to Lewisham???

will pm 2 births of possible siblings

Lesley P in Lewisham 1954
Sharon A in Greenwich 1955


>>> edit, there's also a possible Neil G in Hull in 1948

Ties in with those births I found. Well done!! :-D :-D :-D

could this be his father's death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: William Joseph W Robson
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1916
Date of Registration: Aug 1991
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 463

seem like his mother may have died fairly recently

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Wilhemina Joyce Robson
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1915
Date of Registration: Feb 2003
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Register Number: B85A
District and Subdistrict: 242/1B
Entry number: 285

Hello again Dea,

I've started a help thread to see if that lady is still out there.

How are you getting on with David Jones?

Janice

P.S. - in case you are not familiar with procedures in the case of a 'pauper's' funeral - I don't know about in Scotland but certainly in England, I believe that if this were to be the case, the authorities would pay for a 'basic' funeral but they would then board up the property and secure it so that no-one would be able to gain access.

The effects are then sold off and the proceeds reclaimed by them towards the debt incurred.

So, make sure that you have all paperwork and relevant details that you need in order to try to trace the relatives, before this happens.

Wishing you luck,

Dea Xxx

Christine - I would do what Janice suggested above and amend your title.

There IS someone on here who has visitied the Endinborough GRO in the past for people but I too cannot remember who it is.

If you amend your title she will be more likely to notice that you need help.

Dea x

P.S. - If you are not sure how to do this just go to your first message on here and you will see options to edit, delete, etc - do NOT press delete or the whole thread will disappear.

Click on 'edit' and you will be able to change the title, then click sumbit !

Dea Xxx

Wow Janice thank you so much also Eringobragh. The dates I have are on the paperwork already found at Bill's flat so I'm guessing the dob of parents is correct but maybe not.

I can not thank you all enough, I dont feel that the black hole we have unfortunately fallen into is quite so dark now, lol!

Christine

These are the only Robsons in that area in 1911

1 1911 ROBSON ANNE F 69 CRATHIE /ABERDEEN 183/02 002/00 003

2 1911 ROBSON CATHERINE WHITE F 30 CRATHIE /ABERDEEN 183/02 003/00 002

3 1911 ROBSON WILLIAM GEORGE M 27 CRATHIE /ABERDEEN 183/02 002/00 002

Maybe the father's DOB is wrong too: here are the search results

1 1905 ROBSON JOSEPH WILLIAM M CLOSEBURN /DUMFRIES 816/00 0023

2 1916 ROBSON WILLIAM JOSEPH M BRAEMAR /ABERDEEN 183/01 0003

3 1935 ROBSON WILLIAM JOSEPH M GEORGE SQUARE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/05 1777

If he was born in Scotland then last one is too late, first one has names other way round so 2nd one is best fit, and close to Wilhelmina's age too.

Well that explains why she isn't on the 1911!!

Here are the other doughty births in the same district

1 1893 DOUGHTY M BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0167

2 1891 DOUGHTY ALEXANDER CRAWF M BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0008

3 1920 DOUGHTY ALEXANDER R C M BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/01 0117

4 1888 DOUGHTY BARBARA CAMPBEL F BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0196

5 1884 DOUGHTY DAVID M BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0172

6 1924 DOUGHTY JANET MARY F BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/01 0216

7 1921 DOUGHTY JEANIE RUSSELL F BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/01 0257

8 1886 DOUGHTY JOHN LESLIE MAC M BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0186

9 1880 DOUGHTY MARGARET CAMPBE F BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0109

10 1916 DOUGHTY MARGARET M R MA F CARRIDEN /WEST LOTHIAN 663/02 0028

11 1915 DOUGHTY WILHELMINA JOYC F BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/01 0149

Birth of Wilhelmia Joyce Doughty listed on SP as b 1915....West Lothian . This would appear to correspond with Marriage details..

I can't find a birth for Wilhelmina in Scotland, and she isn't showing on the 1911 in Scotland or Ireland - or England either!

These are the deaths but only one comes close in age:

1 1972 ROBSON HALL-WILHELMINA Not Permissible F 66 DURISDEER /DUMFRIES 823/00 0083 No Image

2 1857 ROBSON WILHELMINA BELL JOHNSTON F 29 DUMFRIES BURGH /DUMFRIES 821/01 0217

3 1875 ROBSON WILHELMINA JOHNSTONE F 77 JEDBURGH /ROXBURGH 792/00 0063

4 1917 ROBSON WILHELMINA BROWN F 68 PAISLEY /RENFREW 573/01 0254

5 1964 ROBSON WILHELMINA Not Permissible HARRISON F 60 GLASGOW (SOUTH) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/01 0823 No Image

6 1982 ROBSON WILHELMINA ELIZ Not Permissible MCKEAND F 86 DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES AND GALLOWAY 834/00 0203 No Image

7 1985 ROBSON WILHELMINA MABO Not Permissible PAXTON THOMSON F 64 EDINBURGH (GEORGE SQUARE) EDINBURGH CITY/LOTHIAN REGION 738/00 0222

Just a suggestion but why don't you start a new thread eg URGENT - Is there anyone in EDINBURGH please?

There used to be a lady on here who offered lookups but I can't remember her name at the moment.


You can't find an address book or Christmas card list anywhere in the flat can you?

Just looking for Wilhelmina in 1911 and she isn't showing as yet. Do you know when the parents died?

From the marriage search, she seems to be Wilhelmina Joyce.