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I have found a Horace. Don't know if it makes sense but posting anyway.

His father is shown as John. John's yob would be c1865. So if Maurice turns out to be Horace, he is the son of John, the brother of Herbert.

Horace Lea
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1895 Ch Gresley,? Derbyshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Church Gresley (Derby),? Staffordshire,? England
name: Horace Lea
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 6
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Ch Gresley, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Burton Upon Trent
sub-district: Gresley
ecclesiastical parish: St George & St Mary Church Gresley
civil parish: Church Gresley (Derby)
county: Staffordshire



1901 Census Household Record

Household information
Address 12 Moat St
Civil Parish Church Gresley
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Church Gresley St George & St Mary
Parliamentary Borough or Division South Derbyshire
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Swadlincote
Administrative County Derby
Householder 1
Name Child Lea
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Elizah Lea
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Florence Lea
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name George E Lea
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Pipe Labourer Sany
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Horace Lea
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 6
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name John Lea
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 36
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Collier
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Laura M Lea
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 8
Name Miranda Lea
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 30
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Upper Wortley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 9
Name Eliza Middleton
Relation to Head of Family Visitor
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Nurse Sick
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 10
Name Kate Steele
Relation to Head of Family Step Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language

I can't find the family in the 1861 and need my bed.

I've looked under Lee and not found so if someone can see if they can locate please.

Hope I've not confused you too muchTracy. And I can't find Maurice either. Grrr.

It's as though William and Mary in the 1851 and 71 have two lots of kids. I can't find the family in 1861 which will link the two groups of kids together. They have to be the same family based on William and Mary's details being the same.

The 1851,71 and 81 are correct I think.

Going to try and find in the 1861 :-S

Sorry Tracy. I've removed the confused contributions from me. Hopefully the rest will be correct as I add them. J

1881 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address 3, Old Freehold
Parish Church Gresley (Derby)
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name George Ordidge
Age 60
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Labourer In Pot Works
Birth Place Ch Gresley
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Ordidge
Age 55
Estimated Year of Birth 1826
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Moira
Birth County Leicestershire
Householder 3
Name George H Ordidge
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Ch Gresley
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name Herbert Lea
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Coal Miner
Birth Place Ch Gresley
Birth County Derbyshire

1871 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Leas Row
Parish Church Gresley
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name William Lea
Age 53
Estimated Year of Birth 1818
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Lea
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Leicestershire
Birth County Leicestershire
Householder 3
Name William Lea
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1853
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name George Lea
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Joseph Lea
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 6
Name Herbert Lea
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 7
Name John Lea
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 8
Name Susan Lea
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire

Going to post again from scratch

Name: Herbert Lea
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Apr 1863
Baptism/Christening Place: Church-Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Lea
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Lea
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04261-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1785836
Reference Number: it 6 p 58 no 461

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1863 (>99%)
LEA Herbert Burton 6b 316

There are two families with very similar information. One from Derbyshire and the other from Northampton.

The Maurice Bertram Lea belongs to the Northampton family. They connect to the butcher occupation.

The Derbyshire family connect to the mines.

I managed to mix them up too and I think I know why.

Going to try to divide them up (painful)

Tracy I apologise. I've messed up and am going to go back over everything to do a double check for the correct family.

A very bad mistake but put it down to tired old eyes. Back in a few mins.J :-(

From FreeBMD

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%)

Chamberlain Mary Burton upon Trent 17 14
Lea William Burton upon Trent 17 14

Absolutely amazing thank you so much for all your help!!!
:-D

William Lea
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 25 Dec 1843 Church-?Gresley,? Derbyshire,? England
parents: John Lea
spouse: Mary Chamberlain
groom's name: William Lea
bride's name: Mary Chamberlain
marriage date: 25 Dec 1843
marriage place: Church-Gresley, Derbyshire, England
groom's father's name: John Lea
bride's father's name: Joseph Chamberlain
indexing project (batch) number: M02003-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1785836

Looking at the original for the 1851 there are no roads or streets mentioned but in the next but one entry is another Lea family

Posting for possible connection

1851 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address
Parish
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name Susanah Lea
Age 64
Estimated Year of Birth 1787
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Snainton
Birth County Leicestershire
Householder 2
Name Thomas Lea
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Collier
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Sarah Lea
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name Francis Lea
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Hannah Lea
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire

Just amazed at how quickly you have found all this information!!! Thank you!!!

This is the right family for 1851

1851 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address
Parish
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name William Lea
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1818
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Collier
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Lea
Age 26
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Measham
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Thomas Lea
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name Henry Lea
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1847
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Emma Lea
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Linton
Birth County Derbyshire
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Thank you!! :-)

I looked at the original and for definite on the 1891 the son looks like Horace Edwin.

And never worry about being cheeky. Chances are by the time I've pressed send on this message, it will already have been found :-D

Super Thank you so much! From the death record above I think this may have been another child.

Being cheeky now! I don't suppose anyone can find the marriage of his mother and father or earlier censuses???

Thank you so much for all your help though!!

????

Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
Carter Phyllis Hardingstone 3b 47
Faulkner Herbert Ephraim Hardingstone 3b 47
FAULKNER Herbert Ephrain Hardingstone 3b 47
Lea Herbert Hardingstone 3b 47 xxxxxxx
Ratcliffe Laura Hardingstone 3b 47 xxxxxxx