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Hello,

I have an ancestor who got married in a small village in Norfolk in 1803. He moved to the area from another parish but I don't know which one. His marriage record on the parish register says "of this parish" but you only have to be resident in the parish for a few weeks for that to be true. He died in 1843 so before the 1851 census which would've shown where he was born.

Does anyone have any ideas about how I can find out his parish of birth? Are there any records at Norwich records office which would help?

I know settlement was important back then so he may have had a settlement certificate or been subject to a settlement examination in his new parish. Are those records stored anywhere?

I'm talking in general terms here so I don't think any specifics about him would be needed.

Thanks.

Hi Barry - care to give us details and we'll see if we can find something for you

The settlement certificates are on the national archives for the village from which they were moved

Thanks for the reply Ann.

Well, his name was John Baxter. He got married in Bircham Newton, Norfolk on November 6th 1803 to Mildred Rayner (or Rainer). He died on September 11th, 1843 in Bircham Newton and his age was given as 71. That's all I know about him. Although I do have the details of their kids but I don't suppose that's helpful.

Thanks for any help.

???

John Baxter
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1772 Norfolk
census: 1841 Forncett St Peter,? Norfolk,? England


name: John Baxter
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 69
birthplace: Norfolk
record type: Household
registration district: Depwade
sub-district: Forncett
civil parish: Forncett St Peter
county: Norfolk

just fishing around at the minute!!

John Baxter
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Mildred
child: Elizabeth Baxter


name: Elizabeth Baxter
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Nov 1817
baptism/christening place: Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England
father's name: John Baxter
mother's name: Mildred
indexing project (batch) number: I07437-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1951566

John Baxter
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Mildred
child: Michael Baxter


name: Michael Baxter
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 12 Aug 1821
baptism/christening place: Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England
father's name: John Baxter
mother's name: Mildred
indexing project (batch) number: I07437-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1951566

John Baxter
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Mildred
child: Sophia Baxter


name: Sophia Baxter
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 12 Aug 1821
baptism/christening place: Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England
father's name: John Baxter
mother's name: Mildred
indexing project (batch) number: I07437-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1951566

I don't think that's him. There is a John Baxter aged 80 in Forncett St. Peter in the 1851 census.
I haven't been able to find John on the 1841 census. And apart from her baptism and marriage I haven't found Mildred on any census nor her death details.

For Ref....marriage?

County Norfolk
Place Bircham Newton
Church All Saints At
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 05 Nov 1803
GroomForename John
GroomSurname BAXTER
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Mildrya
BrideSurname REYNER
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Robt.
WitnessOneSurname REYNER
WitnessTwoForename Mary
WitnessTwoSurname GOLDEN
Notes Marriage By Banns; Robert Jno Francis Curate; All Made Their Mark
FileNumber 4637

Those are some of their children.

They also had William born in 1805, Francis born in 1810 and Robert born in 1812.

Yes that's their marriage.

familysearch have scans of the parish registers from Bircham Newton and I've found all the ones relating to the Baxters.

just about the right age on this one

John Baxter
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Wymondham
census: 1851 England


name: John Baxter
age: 80
gender: M
birthplace: Wymondham
relationship to head of household: Head
record type: Household

that him with Mildred and the children though isnl' it?

John Baxter
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1771 Norfolk
census: 1841 St Andrew,? Norwich,? Norfolk,? England


name: John Baxter
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 70
birthplace: Norfolk
record type: Household
registration district: Norwich
sub-district: West Wymer
civil parish: St Andrew
county: Norfolk

John Baxter
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 Jul 1807 Bircham Newton,? Norfolk,? England
residence: Bircham Newton,? Norfolk,? England
parents: John Baxter,? Milli Rayner


name: John Baxter
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Jul 1807
baptism/christening place: Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England
father's name: John Baxter
mother's name: Milli Rayner
indexing project (batch) number: I07437-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1951566

Thanks again. I just popped out for a bit so that's why my reply has been delayed.

Don't forget John Baxter died in 1843 so the Wymondham one is wrong.

The children are right.

The one from the 1841 census in Norwich, do you have the rest of the household? I can't find this one on ancestry.

Name: John Bayler (Ancestry)
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil parish: St Andrew
Hundred: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 788
Book: 1
Folio: 29
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William Charles Lonas 50
Mary Powar 50
Emma Mary Towne 15
George Kir Towne 15
Robert Able 40
Frederick Attey 12
Henry Arnold 25
Samuel Barker 40
Martha Barker 35
Samuel Barker 12
Henry Barker 5
Eliza Jane Barker 1 6 Mo
John Bayler 70
Ann Burrage


BAXTER, John M 70 1771 Norfolk (Find My Past)
Piece: 788
Book/Folio: 29
Page: 1
Registration District: Norwich
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Municipal Borough: Norwich
Address: The Workhouse, St Andrew, Norwich
County: Norfolk

Chris :)

Thanks Chris.

I can see a bit of lateral thinking on the surname was required. It does look like Baxter, and not Bayler, on the census image.

He could be my guy but I don't know why he would be in Norwich. Perhaps this is where the settlement issue comes in. The Docking workhouse covers Bircham Newton but maybe his legal settlement was Norwich. I don't know.

Does anyone know what happened to his wife Mildred Baxter?

I did forget he died in 1843 - doh :-S

name: Mildred RAINER
gender: Female
birth:

AFN: 125H-0WB

Marriages (1)
spouse: John BAXTER (AFN: 125H-0V4 )
marriage: 1803
Great Bircham, Norfolk, England
Hide children (4)

child 1: William BAXTER (AFN: 125H-0XJ )
gender: Male
BIRTH 14 Apr 1805
Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England

child 2: John BAXTER (AFN: 125J-4NP )
gender: Male
BIRTH 10 Jul 1807
Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England
CHRISTENING 27 Jul 1807
Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England

child 3: Robert BAXTER (AFN: 125H-8VH )
gender: Male
BIRTH 9 Jun 1812
Bircham Newton, Norfolk
CHRISTENING 3 Jul 1812
Bircham Newton, Norfolk

child 4: Francis BAXTER (AFN: 125H-Q1Q )
gender: Male
BIRTH 3 Jan 1810
Bircham Newton, Norfolk, England

this says he was born in Great Bircham

name: John BAXTER
gender: Male
birth:

AFN: 125H-0V4

Marriages (1)
spouse: Mildred RAINER (AFN: 125H-0WB )
marriage: 1803
Great Bircham, Norfolk, England

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