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Raymond

Raymond Report 21 Sep 2012 16:23

Long shot, with very little information, but here goes.
I am trying to trace any family members of a Miss/Mrs D A Phillips of Liverpool Road Islington. Her details are on my Great Nans death certificate in 1948 as being the informant., she is listed as my Great Nans daughter which to me is new news but I supoose in could mean daughter in law? or it might have been a birth after 1911 I have no knowledge about..
See if anyone has an thoughts please.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Sep 2012 16:26

Raymond, it might make it easier for us to help if you tell us more about your great-nan.

Where/when she was born, who she married, etc.

We can then look at records in the correct context.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Sep 2012 16:27

Can you tell us your Great-Nan's name - married and maiden?
Jan

Raymond

Raymond Report 21 Sep 2012 16:27

Great Nan was ELEANOR JANE COLLINGS nee Gibbons 1877-1948

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Sep 2012 16:29

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Collings Doris A Gibbons Islington 1b 453

Raymond

Raymond Report 21 Sep 2012 16:30

married too Edwin Collings , both born London, pooss Islington Edwin 1876 no idea of when he died married 1899 children Edwin George, Maud Eleanor and Edna May last known address in 1948 was Cloudesley Place Islington :-)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Sep 2012 16:30

Marriages Jun 1940 (>99%)
Collings Doris A Phillips Islington 1b 581

Spouse Alfred W Phillips

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Sep 2012 16:30

Raymond, have you searched FreeBMD for any Collings/Gibbons births post-1911?

EDIT:

Like this one

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1912
Collings Doris A Gibbons Islington 1b 453

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Sep 2012 16:31

Marriages Jun 1940 (>99%)
Collings Doris A Phillips Islington 1b 581
Phillips Alfred W Collings Islington 1b 581

Name: Doris A Phillips
Electoral Year: 1948
Parliamentary Division: Islington
County or Borough: Islington

Living at No 73 Liverpool Rd with Alfred.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Sep 2012 16:34

Raymond - does your great-nan's death certificate suggest she was already widowed?

Raymond

Raymond Report 21 Sep 2012 16:39

What a star Brummiejan, another addiotion to the family tree, any other surprises?
:-)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Sep 2012 16:40

It does not look likely that Doris and Alfred Phillips had any children.

Gee

Gee Report 21 Sep 2012 16:41

For ref


1911 England Census
about Edwin Collings
Name: Edwin Collings
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: CLERKENWELL, London, England
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Cloudesley Place, Islington, London N
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: COACH and MOTOR TRIMMER
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 872
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Collings 34
Eleanor Collings 34
Edwin George Collings 12
Maud Eleanor Collings 9
Arthur Charles Collings 7
Edna May Collings


Raymond

Raymond Report 21 Sep 2012 16:42

Death cert does not say if she wwas a widdow, Jonesy another star :-D

Gee

Gee Report 21 Sep 2012 16:42

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Edwin Collings
Name: Edwin Collings
Probate Date: 1 Feb 1965
Death Date: 5 Jan 1965
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

To Doris Annie Read (married woman) £213

Gee

Gee Report 21 Sep 2012 16:45

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Doris A Phillips
Name: Doris A Phillips
Spouse Surname: Benjamin E Read
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 2459

Gee

Gee Report 21 Sep 2012 16:47

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Doris Annie Read
Name: Doris Annie Read
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1912
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1983
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: London City
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 0954


Doris married again, hence 'Read' on the probate record

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Sep 2012 16:48

Just following potential trails and came up with this possible scenario:

Alfred Phillips dies in 1959:

Name: Alfred W Phillips
Birth Date: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1959
Age at Death: 50
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1435

Doris remarries in 1962:

Name: Doris A Phillips
Spouse Surname: Benjamin E Read
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 2459

Doris dies in 1983:

Name: Doris Annie Read
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1912
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1983
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: London City
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 0954

Looks like Gin beat me to it that time but I'll get her back. ;-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Sep 2012 16:49

COLLINGS, Edwin
Registration district: [?] Wood Green
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1965
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:88
Volume no: 5F
Page no: 497


Collings, Edwin Cremated on: 11 Jan 1965 Recorded at: Islington Crematorium (Islington)

(from below, also Eleanor)


https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Chris :)

edits (looks like others on above link also, credits needed to view)

Raymond

Raymond Report 21 Sep 2012 17:22

Tell you what folks, you are stars.
If any of you are still about, and I promise you from my limited resources I have managed on my own to find out a fair bit but have come to a halt on EDWINS family, we now know he was born in c1876 and died 1965, thanks to you. But his father, also Edwin born c 1846 in Jersey, dont know when he died??? married to Mary Ann nee Mahoney 1886 (second marrige), have been trying to find out when he died and when/whom his first marriage was to, as his children were from his first marriage.

Secondly his father EDWARD appears on census in about 1851 and then completely disapears. Born c1824 married to Sarah Gloyns Devonport.

Can you do it again?? :-(