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Tree on ancestry has John Bridge Pye, the son, dying 07 Aug 1858 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England

I am now going to bed.
Elaine probably/possibly has all this, so it is helping us sort out the family, but not to find the missing Miltons.

snap :-D

Edmund as brother of Ann Clarissa????????


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1659-1812 about Edmund Pye

Name: Edmund Pye
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1792
Age: 16
Baptism Date: 22 Feb 1809
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Father's Name: John Bridge Pye





sylvia

Edmund Pye
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1792
Age: 16
Baptism Date: 22 Feb 1809
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Father's Name: John Bridge Pye

Marriage of Ann Clarissa's mother and father, as given in the OP


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about John Bridge Pye

Name: John Bridge Pye
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Margaret Alice Gibson
Marriage Date: 30 Sep 1781
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England





sylvia

Yes, he is Edmund's son:
John Bridge Pye
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Edmund Pye
Spouse's Name: Susanna Gribbin
Marriage Date: 9 Mar 1840
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Added:
Oh, snap.
Great nephew or somehow related.

doesn't look as though John Bridge Pye on the 1841 married to Susannah is a brother of Ann Clarissa ..........................


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about John Bridge Pye

Name: John Bridge Pye
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Edmund Pye <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Name: Susanna Gribbin
Marriage Date: 9 Mar 1840
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England




sylvia

This is the only John Bridge Pye to show up on the 1841 ..... and far too young to be Ann Clarissa's father


1841 Census

Name: John Bridge Pye
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Dale Street

John Bridge Pye 25
Susannah Pye 24
Margeret Pye 6 Mo




sylvia

I suppose it could be a brother. Hadn't really taken much notice of Ann's year of birth - just saw the middle name of Bridge and thought it was her father.

Kath. x

Do you think that is her Father or a brother? (Father would have to be born 1765 or earlier)

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e.g. used as a family middle name
1851 England Census
John B Pye Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah Pye
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 1z Household schedule number: 170 Piece: 2183 Folio: 301 Page Number: 44
John B Pye 31
Susannah Pye 31
Margareta Pye 10
John B Pye 8
Mathew Pye 6
William Pye 2
Susannah Pye 1 Mo
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2183; Folio: 301; Page: 44; GSU roll: 87185-87187.

Wonder if she died at the same time as her father which could be why he is mentioned on the headstone:-


Name: PYE, John Bridge
Registration district: Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1858
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 178

EDIT - probably not as the page numbers are not close.

I can't find Ann or her husband in the census either.

Kath. x

Elaine,
What other details are on the death certificate?
Is there anything else on the gravestone?
(And, similarly, no sign in 1841 or 1851)

Like Ozibird,


I wonder why that gravestone does not mention William Milton


eg, Beloved wife (or widow) of William Milton.



I also cannot find any trace of them.

There is also this, but it's funny her husband isn't mentioned on the grave stone.

Deaths Sep 1856 MILTON William W Derby 8b 271


I can't find any hint of either of them.

Just posting for reference:
Deaths Sep 1858
Milton Ann Claissa W. Derby 8b 360

I am wondering if anyone can help me….I am trying to find any information on ….Ann Clarrisa Pye who was born in Liverpool in 1781/1782 she was Baptised on 20 Jan 1782 at St Mary's, Walton-On-The-Hill, Liverpool. She married William Milton on the 20 DEC 1817 at Saint Peter’s, Church Street, Liverpool. She died in Liverpool on the 3/9/1858 aged 76 years........ there is a grave stone in Toxteth Park Cemetery stating: Sacred to the memory / of / Ann Clarissa MILTON, / daughter of the late John Bridge PYE, / died September 3rd 1858, / aged 76 years.

Her Father was: John Bridge Pye, a Musician, also from Liverpool
Her Mother was: Margaret Alice Gibson

Now I have all this information but I cannot find her or her husband in the 1841 or 1851 census returns and I wondered if a ‘fresh pair of eyes’ could help. Also I am not sure if they had children and so I cannot even look them up!

Many thanks

Elaine