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Where did Richard Mortimer's Children go?

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Gee

Gee Report 23 Oct 2012 16:17

I'm stumped for the children?

Just checked overseas and nothing of interest :-(


Thi looks like it might be the Harry (death) that GB posted



1901 England Census
Name: Harry Mortimer
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Mothernbury, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas Homerton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South-East Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: Hackney Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 235
Folio: 48
Page Number: 23

Sarah

Sarah Report 23 Oct 2012 15:53

Thanks Gins for that - yes that looks like her - dates and birthplace tallies up. That will explain why I couldn't find a death for her! Yes it would be interesting to see who registered the deaths and who witnessed their marriage - might shed some light on the Mortimer children.

Gee

Gee Report 23 Oct 2012 15:31

Looks like Ann married again



Marriages Dec 1885
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Found George Winchester 2c 213
Hawkins Emma Winchester 2c 213
MORTIMER Anne Winchester 2c 213
Rolfe Thomas Winchester 2c 213




1891 England Census
Name: Anne Rolfe
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Rolfe
Gender: Female
Where born: Otterbourne, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Otterbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Otterbourne
Town: Otterbourne Hill
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Winchester
Sub-registration district: Hursley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 940
Folio: 55
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Rolfe 65
Anne Rolfe 71


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Anne Rolfe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1895
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Winchester
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 68



Deaths Jun 1898
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Rolfe Thomas 72 Winchester 2c 75



Be interesting to see who registered the death for the both of them and to check the witnesses on the marriage certificate

Sarah

Sarah Report 23 Oct 2012 14:36

I haven't ruled that Harry Mortimer in Hackney out so I will go and have a look in to that one Glitterbaby. EDIT - interestingly, he lists Mothernburg as his birthplace but there is no such place in Hampshire - wonder whether they meant Otterbourne?!?

Yes those are the baptisms for the children - I got them from Hampshire Record Office when I went although I know they are on FamilySearch too.

Thanks for the info on the Richard Cousens in Massachusetts - I suspect it isn't him given the fact he took the name Mortimer after his parents married although it's still a possibility which I will have a look in to.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2012 13:49

?????

Richard Cousins
Massachusetts, Deaths and Burials, 1795-1910
birth: 1846 England
death: 21 Mar 1886 Needham,? Massachusetts
burial: Needham
residence: 1886 Needham


name: Richard Cousins
gender: Male
burial place: Needham
death date: 21 Mar 1886
death place: Needham, Massachusetts
age: 40
birth date: 1846
birthplace: England
occupation: Laborer
race: White
marital status: Married
indexing project (batch) number: B06798-6
system origin: Massachusetts-EASy
source film number: 960232

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2012 13:48

Richard Cousens
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 05 Jul 1846 Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Anne Cousens


name: Richard Cousens
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 05 Jul 1846
baptism/christening place: Otterbourne, Hampshire, England
mother's name: Anne Cousens
indexing project (batch) number: I04032-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596257

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2012 13:47

Charles Mortimore
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1849 Otterbourne,? Hampshire
census: 1861 Alverstoke,? Hampshire,? England


name: Charles Mortimore
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 12
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Otterbourne, Hampshire
record type: Household
registration district: Alverstoke
sub-district: 1 Alverstoke
ecclesiastical parish: St Johns Forton
civil parish: Alverstoke
county: Hampshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2012 13:45

Harry Mortimes
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 11 May 1851 Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Richard Mortimes,? Anne


name: Harry Mortimes
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 May 1851
baptism/christening place: Otterbourne, Hampshire, England
father's name: Richard Mortimes
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: I02042-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6344430

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Oct 2012 13:45

Emily Mortimer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 Aug 1854 Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Richard Mortimer,? Anne


name: Emily Mortimer
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 Aug 1854
baptism/christening place: Otterbourne, Hampshire, England
father's name: Richard Mortimer
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: I04032-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596257

Charles Mortimer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 21 Jan 1849 Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Richard Mortimer,? Anne


name: Charles Mortimer
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Jan 1849
baptism/christening place: Otterbourne, Hampshire, England
father's name: Richard Mortimer
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: I04032-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596257

Mary Mortimer
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 07 Jun 1857 Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Otterbourne,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Richard Mortimer,? Anne


name: Mary Mortimer
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 07 Jun 1857
baptism/christening place: Otterbourne, Hampshire, England
father's name: Richard Mortimer
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: I04032-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596257

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Oct 2012 13:35

Have you ruled out the Harry Mortimer 1846 on the 1901 census in Hackney Union Workhouse

Name: Harry Mortimer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1901
Age at Death: 50
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 264

Sarah

Sarah Report 23 Oct 2012 13:19

I am trying to locate whhere the children of Richard Mortimer b 1816 and Mary Ann Cousens (often went by name of Anne) b 1819 dissapear off to.

Richard Mortimer and Mary Ann Cousens married in 1847 in Hampshire and had six children that we are aware of:
Richard Cousens b 1846 Otterbourne, Hampshire
Charles Mortimer b 1849 Otterbourne, Hampshire
Harry Mortimer b 1851 Otterbourne, Hampshire
Emily Mortimer b 1854 Otterbourne, Hampshire
Mary Mortimer b 1857 Otterbourne, Hampshire
Thomas Mortimer b 1860 Otterbourne, Hampshire

The eldest son Richard was born out of wedlock with surname Cousens but he takes on Mortimer surname when parents marry. I have him on 1851 and 1861 census then he disappears.

I have Charles in 1851 and 1861 census but then nothing more.
I have Harry in 1851, 1861 and 1871 then he disappears.
I have Emily in 1861 then she disappears.
I have Mary in 1861 and 1871 then she disappears.
Their youngest child Thomas is the only one I have been able to track and he died in 1861 shortly after being born.

I have their parents on the census up until their deaths - Richard died in 1882. Mary doesn't appear on 1891 census presume she died by then but I haven't found a death for her either.

Any help at locating these children would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.