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I've thought about it and can't see that I will get anywhere if I get copies of the birth certificates as I still won't know which is the correct person.Would a copy of the death certificate help? I don't know.
Is it possible to get a census/electoral list for 1919 as I know where Frederick John Jefferies was living before his marriage.

I know about the 2 trees on Ancestry. I had my GParents down as Fred and emma in the beginning but then when I had the marriage certificate for Frederick and Agnes I saw the Fathers name was James so I changed my tree to James and Hope. I'm finding this very confusing and I think the only way to go is to get the birth certificates.
thanks for your help

The 2 trees on ancestry I have seen have his parents as Fred and Emma. If you think his parents are James and Hope, it means that the owners of the trees have gone far wrong in their research.
They both have his death as 1921 but have nothing to back this up. I would buy the death certificate before I made any assumptions as the owners of the trees have already made mistakes.

Liz

Yes Alviegl. These are the details I have found and I have found the details in the 1911 census as well.

His birth?

Civil Registration event: Birth
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Name: JEFFERIES, Frederick John
Registration district: Wellington (Somerset)
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1884
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 313

So this may be him?


1901 census transcription details for: Lower Poole, West Buckland
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2270
Folio: 30
Page: 15
Reg. District: Wellington
Sub District: Wellington
Parish: West Buckland
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: West Buckland
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Lower Poole, West Buckland
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JEFFERIES, James Head Married M 50 1851 Brickyard Labourer
Wellington, Somersetshire
JEFFERIES, Hope Wife Married F 50 1851
Sidbury, Devonshire
JEFFERIES, Eliza Daughter Single F 19 1882 Feeder In Woollen Factory
W Buckland, Somersetshire
>>JEFFERIES, John Son Single M 18 1883 Brickyard Labourer
W Buckland, Somersetshire
JEFFERIES, Bert Wm Son Single M 15 1886 Machine Winder Woollen Factory
W Buckland, Somersetshire
JEFFERIES, Violet Daughter Single F 11 1890
W Buckland, Somersetshire
JEFFERIES, Walter W Son Single M 7 1894
W Buckland, Somersetshire


1911 census transcription details for: Poole West Buckland Wellington Somt
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN14188 RG78PN851 RD304 SD3 ED3 SN106
Reg. District: Wellington
Sub District: Wellington
Parish: West Buckland
Enum. District: 3
Address: Poole West Buckland Wellington Somt
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
JEFFERIES, James Head Married M 63 1848 Bricklabourer Ledbury Devon
JEFFERIES, Hope Wife Married
40 years F 63 1848 Wellington Som
>>JEFFERIES, John Son Single M 28 1883 Bricklabourer Poole Som
JEFFERIES, Bertie Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Poole Som
JEFFERIES, Walter Son Single M 17 1894 Bobbing Boy Poole Som

My Father would never talk about him and I was under the impression that he didn't get on with him. On my Dad and Mums's marriage Certificate his fathers name is down as Jack

Thanks a lot. It could well be him with a misspelt surname.

Twins

Name: Edith W M Jefferies
Mother's Maiden Surname: Grant
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly. Dorset/Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 481

Name: Frederick W J Jefferies
Mother's Maiden Surname: Grant
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly. Dorset/Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 480


so maybe he did die soon after their births


Name: Frederick J Jeffreys
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921
Age at Death: 39
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 325

Deaths Dec 1921 (>99%)
Jeffreys Frederick J 39 Wellington Som 5c 325

??

Name: Fredercik J Jeffries
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1956
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 79

???
Name: Frederick James Jeffries
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1882
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 335

I have a copy of the Marriage certificate for Frederick and Agnes and Fredericks father was James Jefferies a retired Brickyard Labourer and Fred's address was 3 Buckwell Wellington somerset. It gives his age as 35.

A tree on ancestry has him dying in 1921, Wellington. It is not backed up by any records.

Name: Agnes Jefferies
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1950
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Taunton
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 270


so could he have died Taunton reg district

Is this your grandfather?

1891 census transcription details for: 46, Gas Street, Wellington, Springfield
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1871
Folio: 108
Page: 13
Reg. District: Williton
Sub District: Wellington
Parish: Wellington
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: Wellington
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 46, Gas Street, Wellington, Springfield
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JEFFRIES, Fred Head Married M 34 1857 Fitter Iron Foundry
Wellington, Somersetshire
JEFFRIES, Emma Wife Married F 28 1863
Culmstock, Devonshire
JEFFRIES, Florence Daughter F 11 1880 School Child
Wellington, Somersetshire
>>JEFFRIES, Frederick J Son M 9 1882 School Child
Burlescombe, Devonshire
JEFFRIES, Sidney R Son M 6 1885 School Child
Burlescombe, Devonshire
JEFFRIES, Ernest J Son M 3 1888
Wellington, Somersetshire
HILL, Henry Lodger Single M 16 1875 Baker
Hemyock, Devonshire

?? no birth for Devon but this could be her

Name: Agnes Grant
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1887
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 309

Yes Agnes was a widow when she married Frederick John Jefferies. I have all this and I know when Agnes died but can't find the death of my Grandfather anywhere.

Civil Registration event: Marriage


MarriageFinder: Alfred Condick married Agnes Grant
Name: CONDICK, Alfred
Registration district: Wellington (Somerset)
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1908
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 595
Name: GRANT, Agnes
Registration district: Wellington (Somerset)
County: Somerset
Year of registration: 1908
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 595

Sorry. Yes it is Wellington somerset.