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Missing sisters in 1911

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Peter

Peter Report 9 Nov 2012 09:30

I have posted the 1901 census and the family can be found at the same address in 1911. ALICE is now married but the two sisters ANNIE and FLORENCE are missing.

Can anyone help find them in the 1911 census as I haven't had any luck on findmypast.

Thanks

Peter

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1901 Census
RG number: RG13 Piece: 140 Folio: 25 Page: 42
Reg. District: St Pancras
Sub District: Gray's Inn Lane
Parish: St Pancras
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Cross
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 94, Midhope Buildings, St Pancras
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MORRIS, John G Head Widower M 40 1861 Cabman Hamley, Middlesex
MORRIS, Annie E Daughter Single F 17 1884 Corset Maker St Pancs, London
MORRIS, Florence Daughter Single F 15 1886 St Pancs, London
MORRIS, Alice Daughter Single F 13 1888 St Pancras, London
MORRIS, Ethel Daughter Single F 8 1893 St Pancras, London
MORRIS, Kathleen Daughter Single F 5 1896 St Pancras, London

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 9 Nov 2012 09:36

Looking at their ages in 1901 I would say that there is a strong possibility that the "Missing" sisters may have married by 1911. Have you looked for possible marriages for them?

Try looking at www.freebmd.org.uk (A free site)

Peter

Peter Report 9 Nov 2012 09:38

Hello Jonesey

The info I was given suggested Annie was a war bride and no info on Florence.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Nov 2012 09:39

Have you found the parents in 1911

It would show how many children born and still alive

Peter

Peter Report 9 Nov 2012 09:40

Unfortunately their father is a widower in 1911. I didn't notice any mention of children.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Nov 2012 09:43

No there would not be any mention of children if he was a widower in 1911

Did Annie or Florence witness any marriage of their siblings ?

Peter

Peter Report 9 Nov 2012 09:45

GB

On Alice marriage cert the witness was Ethel Morris.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2012 09:48

so he is calling himself George in 1911 with a different place of birth

1911 census transcription details for: 94 Midhope Buildings

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN699 RG78PN24 RD9 SD2 ED16 SN92
Reg. District: St Pancras
Sub District: South St Pancras
Parish: St Pancras
Enum. District: 16
Address: 94 Midhope Buildings
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
MORRIS, George Head Widower M 52 1859 Cabman Herefordshire
MORRIS, Ethel Daughter Singel F 18 1893 Home St Pancras
MORRIS, Kathleen Daughter Singel F 16 1895 Factory Hand St Pancras


a a widower he wasnt required to fill in years married and children born etc so that doesnt help

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 9 Nov 2012 09:48

Not conclusive by any means but this could be Florence in 1911:

Name: Florence Morris
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England
Civil parish: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: Clovelly Kepplestone Meads Staveley Road Eastbourne
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Housemaid
Registration district: Eastbourne
Registration District Number: 71
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Household schedule number: 125
Piece: 4845
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Browne 57
Frederick Mercer 61
Edith Green 44
Alice Barker 33
Gwendoline Berry 15
Mildred Berry 9
Nancy Bennett 17
Vera Boxert 17
Elizabeth Colten 17
Annunziata Colten 15
Betty Cooke 12
Vera Cleeve 17
Edith Cleeve 15
Millicent Mocher 14
Pamela Dunbar 13
Betty Dunbar 13
May Dewhust 14
Paul C Eggers 14
Helene Eggers 12
Marian Hopkinson 14
Esther Hercock 17
Audrey Hargreaves 13
Maude Lucombe 16
Bessie Miller 16
Margorie Neame 14
Joan Neame 14
Gladys Osmond 16
Marjorie Osmond 11
Eileen Poyntz 12
Violet Peacock 15
Daisy Rivett Carnae 16
Sybil Rice 14
Nora Stacey 13
Dorothy Sheirich 17
Kathleen Smith 13
Marie Thorn 12
Sheiln Wynn Williams 9
Vera Whiteheat 15
Vera Whiteheat 14
Doria Wabley 14
Carne Wilding 9
Gladys Ynee 8
Sarah Stroud 50
Henry Stroud 49
Elizabeth Loving 24
Ethel Loving 23
Florence Medhurst 27
Elizabeth Nunn 19
Florence Morris 25
Ada Hall 17
Ethel Nash 22
Caroline Poor 70
Catherine Ellen Manford 30
Edith Laura M Kimmie 34
Mabel Alice Packham 19

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Nov 2012 09:49


Are the names showing on 1901 census their correct names they were baptised and registered as or nick names ?

Peter

Peter Report 9 Nov 2012 09:50

Your right Shirley. If you look at the 1891 census he is George from Herefordshire as well.

As far as I know these facts are correct.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2012 09:51

what about this one ?

Marriages Sep 1901 )
MORRIS Annie Elizabeth Pancras 1b 71


BROWN William John Pancras 1b 71
Coad Priscilla Pancras 1b 71
MORRIS Annie Elizabeth Pancras 1b 71
Penfold William Arthur Pancras 1b 71

Peter

Peter Report 9 Nov 2012 09:56

It is possible but she would have only been 17 years old.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2012 09:58

Name: Annie Elizabeth Morris
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1883
Father's Name: George Morris
Mother's name: Frances Morris
Parish or Poor Law Union: St John the Evangelist, Charlotte Street
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Peter

Peter Report 9 Nov 2012 10:00

That's her Shirley .......... dad is George.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2012 10:02

well my grt grandmother married at 15. Girls could marry at 12 and boys at 14.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2012 10:04

If Annie was a war bride she lied about her age I think.


Name: Annie Elizabeth Morris
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 21
Spouse Name: George James Ashford
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Jun 1916
Parish: Hackney St Luke
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: George Morris occ labourer
Spouse Father Name: Henry Ashford
Register Type: Parish Register

or is this another Annie Elizabeth ??

Gee

Gee Report 9 Nov 2012 10:06

1911 England Census
about Annie Brown
Name: Annie Brown
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Pancras
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 67 Havelock Street, Islington, London N
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 11
Estimated Marriage Year: 1900
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 895
Household Members: Name Age
William Brown 39
Annie Brown 30
Daisy Brown 10
William Brown 7
Doris Brown 3


Jonesey

Jonesey Report 9 Nov 2012 10:07

Unfortunately the 1901 marriage is not the correct Annie E Morris;

Name: Annie Elizabeth Morris
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 20
Spouse Name: William John Brown
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Sep 1901
Parish: Haverstock Hill St Andrew
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Charles Henry Morris
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Chapman Brown
Register Type: Parish Register

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2012 10:13

Rules that one out then ,thanks