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1881 census
Name: Ellen Isard
[Ellen Jarvis]
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Emily Isard
Gender: Female
Where born: Strood, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Strood
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: No 2 Wickhams Cotts North St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: North Aylesford
Sub-registration District: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 882
Folio: 32
Page Number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clark 50
Ellen Winn 70
Emily Isard 45 bTenterden Kent widow
Ellen Isard 12

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 882; Folio: 32; Page: 58; GSU roll: 1341209.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Lilian Rose Ruck Name: Lilian Rose Ruck
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1899
Registration District: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 681



1911 England Census
about Lilian Ruck Name: Lilian Ruck
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Shorne
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: Mount Pleasant, Ridgeway, Shorne, Gravesend
Occupation: school
Registration District: Strood
Registration District Number: 45
Sub-registration District: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household Schedule Number: 110
Piece: 3852
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Brown 41 (Takes Lodgers and Children)
Lily Brown 7
Elsie Bennett 21
Lilian Ruck 12
Phoebe Ruck 9
Catherine Ruck 7

It states the birth place is "Not Known" for Lilian, Phoebe and Catherine)

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Name: Edith Ruck
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Strood Intra
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: Hillside Avenue, Strood, Kent
Marital Status: Single
Registration District: Strood
Registration District Number: 45
Sub-registration District: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household Schedule Number: 262
Piece: 3870
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Farley Cobb 40
Norah Cobb 43
Edith Ruck 16


Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 3870; Schedule Number: 262.

Son Jim

Name: James Ruck
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Strood, Kent
Civil Parish: Grays Thurrock and Stifford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: Training Ship Exmouth, Metropolitan Asylums Board, Grays, Essex
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Boy On Training ship
Registration District: Orsett
Registration District Number: 192
Sub-registration District: Grays
ED, institution, or vessel: 25-29
Piece: 9976

Says born Gravesend

Name: Rose Ruck
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Ruck
Gender: Female
Where born: Gravesend, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Malling
Sub-registration District: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 231
Piece: 741
Folio: 107
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ruck 33
Rose Ruck 32
Lizzie Ruck 9
Edith Ruck 8
Jim Ruck 4
Lillie Ruck 2

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 741; Folio: 107; Page: 43.

Could you give us ALL the details from her marriage entry please - names, ages, fathers, occupations, addresses, witnesses etc.

Thanks,

Dea x

There were no penalties for non registration before 1875 .

Have you tried City Ark website for a possible baptism for her.

Are you aware of any siblings she may have had

My Mum & I have spent hours searching for the birth record of my great grandmother Rose Ellen

We have a copy of her parish marriage records from St Nicholas, Strood, Kent from 24th April 1892 detailing her marriage to James Ruck. This says her father was George Jarvis (deceased)

We can then find her in the 1901 census, listed as Rose Ruck living in Church Street, Burnham, Kent.

Both of these documents suggest that she was born about 1867

The next time we can find a record of her is her death where she is listed as Ellen Ruck in the March quarter 1949, registered in Maidstone, Kent Vol 5b Page 748. Her headstone in Sittingbourne cemetery refers to her as Ellen Rose Ruck with a date of death of January 30th 1949.

We know that she spent some time in and out of the local workhouse, after her marriage, but I don't think any of these times coincided with census dates.

I'm wondering if anyone can help us in finding any further details so we can follow that branch of the family back. She seems to appear from nowhere for her marriage and then we can't find her in the 1911 census either. Is it possible that her birth wasn't registered?

I have put all of the details here that I have, except the children's names which I can include if it is useful.

Thank you