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Keoghoe - Irish? I cannot find the connection

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 02:30

And another...

Name: Lydia Keoghoe
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1894
Father's Name: John Keoghoe
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Keoghoe
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father a cabinet maker, Address 35 Pundersons Gardens

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 02:27

This sibling of Alfred's appears to have been born and died between censuses

Name: Thomas Alfred Keoghoe
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Nov 1886
Father's Name: John Keoghoe
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Keoghoe
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father a cabinet maker

Sadly

Deaths Mar 1888 KEOGHOE Thomas Alfred 1 Bethnal Green 1c 212

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 02:21

A tree on Ancestry has this on the record of William and Maria's daughter Jane Ellen Keoghoe, but no documentation. presumably she is 6 yr old 'jane Rogers' on census 1851 previously posted.

"Birth Dec 1843 Shoreditch, London, United Kingdom
Born at 4 Providence Place, Charles Square, Hoxton New Town. Mother shown as Maria Keoghoe nee Bionard."

Name: Jane Ellen Keoghoe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Age: 18
Spouse Name: Stephen Belcher - wood cutter
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Mar 1861
Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Keoghoe - cabinet maker
Spouse Father Name: Stephen Belcher - wood cutter
Register Type: Parish Register

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 02:08

Found on another board. The dates of coming over are too early for your William and Maria, but it seemed rather a co-incidence.


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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 21:51:04

Early in the 1800s, between 1815 and 1820, William Keoghoe brought his wife, Maria Brouard from Guernsey to Bethnal Green. They started a line of the name Keoghoe that survive today (but only a few). Note the spelling. The name is Irish and the name is associated with County Wicklow and possibly the Fitzjohn estates.

Here's the question. Does anybody know a Keoghoe? Where would I find information and in which parish records about the several children they had? Here's the biggest question of all. Why would William Keoghoe bring a bride to Bethnal Green if what I have read is true: not a very nice place to live at that time. After all, St Peter's Port, Guernsey had a growing economy in shipping."

http://www.parishregister.com/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1422

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 01:40

Baptism for brother William:

Name: William John Keoghoe
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1883
Father's Name: John Keoghoe
Mother's Name: Sarah Keoghoe
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born Jan 15th 1883

Sadly:

Name: William John Keoghoe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1900
Age at Death: 17
Registration District: Whitechapel
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 175

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 01:34

Baptism for Albert:

Name: Albert Keoghoe
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1889
Father's Name: John Keoghoe
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Keoghoe
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born March 29th 1889 according to image

Death:
Name: Albert Keoghoe
Birth Date: 27 Mar 1889
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1969
Age at Death: 80
Registration District: Waltham Forest
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5e
Page: 773

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 01:28

Marriage for Albert's sister Emily?

Name: Emily Eliza Keoghoe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 32
Spouse Name: Alfred George Snooks - cutter
Spouse Age: 38
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Apr 1916
Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Keoghoe - cabinet maker
Spouse Father Name: Henry Richard Snooks - mason
Register Type: Parish Register

Alice Maud Keoghoe (nee Gladden?) a witness. her husband Albert might be the other - bad handwriting!

Name: Emily Eliza Keoghoe
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Jun 1883
Father's Name: John Keoghoe
Mother's Name: Sarah Keoghoe
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St John
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Death (for date of birth)

Name: Emily Eliza Snooks
Birth Date: 5 Jul 1884
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1973
Age at Death: 89
Registration District: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1314

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 01:11

This looks like the baptism of Alice aged 2 in census 1901. In which case the Sarah Ann Ford marriage might well be correct.

Name: Alice Maud Keoghoe
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Oct 1898
Father's Name: John Keoghoe
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Keoghoe
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father a cabinet maker. Address 35 Punderson Gardens

Sadly:

Name: Alice Maud Keoghoe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903
Age at Death: 4
Registration District: Whitechapel
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 154

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 00:57

Hmmmmmmm!

Seems John was with Alice and her children a while before he got round to marrying her in 1916 as posted earlier:

Address: 11 Falkirk St Hoxton County: London

KEOGHOE, John Head Married M 50 1861 Cabinet Maker London Bethnal GN
KEOGHOE, Alice Wife Married 2 years F 37 1874 London Bethnal GN
JOHNSON, James Son Single M 16 1895 Chair And Couch Maker London Bethnal GN
JOHNSON, Samuel Son M 14 1897 Wood Carver Carver London Bethnal GN
JOHNSON, Caroline Daughter F 9 1902 School London Bethnal GN
JOHNSON, Emily Daughter F 7 1904 School London Bethnal GN
JOHNSON, Jessie Daughter F 2 1909 London Bethnal GN
KEOGHOE, John Son M 3 1908 London Shoreditch

EDIT: On image son John looks like 3 months, not 3 years.


John with Sarah in 1901:

Address: 35, Punderson Gardens, Bethnal Green
County: London

KEOGHOE, John Head Married M 41 1860 Cabinet Maker
Bethnal Green, London
KEOGHOE, Sarah Wife Married F 39 1862 Dalston, London
KEOGHOE, Emily Daughter Single F 16 1885 Artificial Flower MakerBethnal Green, London
KEOGHOE, Albert Son Single M 12 1889 Bethnal Green, London
KEOGHOE, Alice Daughter Single F 2 1899 Bethnal Green, London

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 00:53

I have found this marriage record, but it seems to be out of area. Does have father named John:

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940

Name: John Keoghoe
Gender: Male
Father's Name: John Keoghoe
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Ford
Spouse's Father's Name: James Ford
Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1882
Marriage Place: Walthamstow, Essex, England

MickBr

MickBr Report 29 May 2013 00:46

This is brilliant, Kucinta. The name is definitely Gladden. I never knew my grandad was a fitter. He was variously, a docker, a bare knuckle fighter, a worker in a small steel factory, a bookmaker.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 00:36

Albert's marriage: it looks like Gladden on the image

Name: Alice Maud Slodden

[Alice Maud Gladden]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Albert Keoghoe - fitter?
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 May 1915
Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Slodden-boot laster
Spouse Father Name: John Keoghoe- cabinet maker
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses Catherine Gladden A Gladden

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 00:19

Deaths of John senior and Caroline?

Name: John Keoghoe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Age at Death: 75
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 236

Name: Caroline Keoghoe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912
Age at Death: 70
Registration District: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 259

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 00:11

Can anyone find a marriage for Albert's parents John and Sarah?

John is still single in 1881, living with mother Caroline:

Census 1881:

Address: 27, St Judes Street, Bethnal Green County: London, Middlesex

KEOGHE, Caroline Head Wife Married F 40 1841
KEOGHE, John Son Single M 22 1859 Cabinet Maker
KEOGHE, William Son Single M 20 1861 Engineer (Artz)

EDIT: The image shows father John, cabinet maker, is with the family but has been missed off the transcription

I can find what looks like a second marriage for John junior in 1916, but not the first one to Sarah.

Name: John Keoghoe - widower cabinet maker
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Age: 56
Spouse Name: Alice Johnson- widow
Spouse Age: 42
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Apr 1916
Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: John Keoghoe - deceased cabinet maker
Spouse Father Name: George Davis- deceased table maker
Register Type: Parish Register

EDIT: This looks like the death of first wife Sarah. Accorong to census 1891 posted earlier, she was born c1861:

Deaths Mar 1909 KEOGHOE Sarah 47 Bethnal G. 1c 148

I still can't find her marriage to John though.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 00:07

Ancestry has this extremely mangled transcription for 1851, but to be fair, the image is so faint I don't know how they got anything out of it!

The head of the house is a cabinet maker and he and his wife are born Guernsey, the children are born Shoreditch

The first three children tally with the Keoghoe children from census 1841

Name: Emma Rogers
[Maria Keoghoe]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Herman Rogers
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Germany
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:


Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 140
Piece: 1541
Folio: 79
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Herman Rogers 37 cabinet maker Guern sey [William]
Emma Rogers 36 Guernsey [Maria?]
William Rogers 13
John Rogers 12<<<<<<
Maria Rogers 10
Jane Rogers 6
George Rogers 4
Elizabeth Rogers 6 Mo

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 29 May 2013 00:01

Same family 1861, Maria widowed. Not from Ireland

Name: Maria Kevghoe
[Maria Keoghoe]
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: St Peters Port, Germany [Guernsey?]
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:


Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 220
Piece: 258
Folio: 52
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Kevghoe 47
William Kevghoe 23
Elizabeth Kevghoe 9
George Kevghoe 11
William Kevghoe 3
Maria Kevghoe 1

The two youngest children William & Maria are grandchildren.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 May 2013 23:58

Ancestry has this amended record for 1841, with a John with father named William.

it looks like Kieghoe on the image:

Both parents not born in County.

Children born Middlesex

Name: John Kieghee
[John Keoghoe]
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 707
Book: 8
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21

Household Members:
Name Age

William Kieghee 25 cabinet maker<<<<<<<<<
Maria Kieghee 20
William Kieghee 3
John Kieghee 2<<<<<<<<<<<
Maria Kieghee 4 Mo


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 May 2013 23:50

Marriage for John and Caroline?

Name: John Keoghoe - cabinet maker
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Caroline Homewood
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Jun 1859
Parish: Bethnal Green St Andrew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Keoghoe - cabinet maker
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Homewood
Register Type: Parish Register

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 May 2013 23:49

His father John with parents?

Census 1861:

Name: John Keoghal
[John Keoghoe]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Keoghal
Mother's Name: Caroline Keoghal
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green
Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

John Keoghal 22 c1839 City - cabinet
Caroline Keoghal 20 c1841 Bethnal Green
John Keoghal 1 c1860 Bethnal Green

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 28 May 2013 23:47

Census 1891:

Address: 35, Punderson Gardens, Bethnal Green
County: London

census 1891:

KEOGHOE, John Head Married M 33 1858 Cabinet Maker
Bethnal Green, London <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
KEOGHOE, Sarah Wife Married F 30 1861
Bethnal Green, London
KEOGHOE, William Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Bethnal Green, London
KEOGHOE, Emily Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Bethnal Green, London
KEOGHOE, Albert Son M 2 1889
Bethnal Green, London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<