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Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:52
	Just looking at your tree Deborah, and sending baptisms for John and Joseph and then working back,
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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 40 Send Message	Deborah	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:47
	i actually think i have got into a total pickle..... :-\| :-\| :-\|
	Researching: cowburn, claxton and norman
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:29
	Elizabeth's name is Cowburn, she wasn't married before her marriage to Thomas Holcroft as it states she is a spinster on the marriage.
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Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:28
	Likely baptism for Thomas Baptism: 5 Jun 1892 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England Thomas Cowburn - [Child] of Elizabeth Cowburn Born: 17 Sep 1891 Abode: Bridgewater St Occupation: Pitbrow Baptised by: C.J.Buckmaster Vicar Register: Baptisms 1886 - 1893, Page 179, Entry 1427 Source: LDS Film 93748
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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 40 Send Message	Deborah	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:27
	Andy sorry to keep asking questions but do we know what elizabeths maiden name was please
	Researching: cowburn, claxton and norman
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:22
	Deborah, it would seem that Thomas Cowburn's mother Elizabeth was not married when she had Thomas, as on the 1911 she had been married 13 years and Thomas was 19
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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 40 Send Message	Deborah	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:19
	Andy is there anyway I can give you access to view my tree as i am incredibly confused now
	Researching: cowburn, claxton and norman
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 40 Send Message	Deborah	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:17
	\Thanks Andy...so annie moorfield and thomas cowburn were both married before...so annie had willie.....but did my grandfather John come from another mother?
	Researching: cowburn, claxton and norman
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 40 Send Message	Deborah	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:13
	ok guys...so am i reading this right. thomas cowburn's mother was Elizabeth who remarried Thomas Holcroft? so was Thomas's father ....so confused.com :- :-(
	Researching: cowburn, claxton and norman
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 12,081 Send Message	Andrew	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:06
	Going back to Annie...... 1901 census 1 England Census about Annie Moorfield Name:Annie Moorfield Age:10 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1891 Relation:Daughter Father's Name:William Moorfield Mother's Name:Ann Moorfield Gender:Female Where born:Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Hindley Ecclesiastical parish:All Saints Town:Hindley County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration District:Wigan Sub-registration District:Hindley ED, institution, or vessel:13 Neighbors:View others on page Household Schedule Number:99 Piece:3561 Folio:94 Page Number:19 Household Members: Name Age William Moorfield 52 Ann Moorfield 42 Elizabeth Moorfield 20 William Cowley 19 Jane Cowley 14 >>>>Annie Moorfield 10 Rachel Moorfield 7 Mary Moorfield 5 James Moorfield 3 marriage for William and Ann Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cowley Nancy Wigan 8c 122 MOOREFIELD William Wigan 8c 122 Moorfield William Wigan 8c 122 Looks like a second marriage for both of them. Also Annie also known as Nancy? Andy
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:04
	1881 England Census about Elizabeth Cowburn Name: Elizabeth Cowburn Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Ellen Cowburn Gender: Female Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 99 Bridgwater Street Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Cotton Mill Doffer Registration District: Wigan Sub-registration District: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3772 Folio: 72 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Cowburn 39 (Widow) Isaac Cowburn 17 Elizabeth Cowburn 15 Ann Cowburn 13 John Cowburn 11 Clarice Cowburn 8 Mary Cowburn 7 Alice Cowburn 2 1891 England Census about Elizabeth Cowburn Name: Elizabeth Cowburn Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Ellen Cowburn Gender: Female Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Hindley Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration District: Wigan Sub-registration District: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3058 Folio: 34 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Cowburn 49 Isaac Cowburn 27 Elizabeth Cowburn 25 Ann Cowburn 27 John Cowburn 21 Clarice Cowburn 19 Mary Cowburn 17 Alice Cowburn 12
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Jun 2013 16:01
	1871 England Census about Elizabeth Cowburn Name: Elizabeth Cowburn Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Cowburn Mother's Name: Ellen Cowburn Gender: Female Where born: Hindley Civil Parish: Hindley Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Wigan Sub-registration District: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Schedule Number: 274 Piece: 3891 Folio: 28 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Cowburn 31 Ellen Cowburn 30 Isaac Cowburn 7 Elizabeth Cowburn 5 Ann Cowbourn Cowburn 3 John Cowburn 1 Frances Blackburn 50
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: September 2004 Posts: 615 Send Message	Fredk	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:57
	GR Version 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Household Information Address 3 DOG POOL OFF ATHERTON ROAD HINDLEY Parish HINDLEY County Lancashire Country ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District Enumeration District 10 Registration District WIGAN Registration District Number 458 SubDistrict Number 4 Category Census, Land & Surveys Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales Collections from Great Britain Person 1 First Name THOMAS Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1866 Age 45 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household HEAD Gender M Condition MARRIED Year Of Marriage 1898 Years Of Marriage 13 Occupation COLLIERY FIREMAN BELOW GROUND Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 2 First Name ELIZABETH Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1866 Age 45 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household WIFE Gender F Condition MARRIED Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 3 First Name HARRY S Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1898 Age 13 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation HAULAGE HANDF BELOW GROUND Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 4 First Name JOHN Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1901 Age 10 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 5 First Name RICHARD Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1902 Age 9 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 6 First Name MARY ELLEN Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1904 Age 7 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER Gender F Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 7 First Name CLARICE Last Name HOLCROFT Birth Year 1908 Age 3 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER Gender F Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation SCHOOL Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025 Person 8 First Name THOMAS Last Name COWBURN Birth Year 1892 Age 19 Where Born HINDLEY LANCASHIRE Relationship To Head of Household SON Gender M Condition SINGLE Year Of Marriage Years Of Marriage Occupation LABOURER COAL MINE BELOW GROUND Military Info Census Reference RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Archive Reference RG14 Folio Page Piece Number 23025
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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 40 Send Message	Deborah	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:56
	I am trying to find out who Thomas's Mother and father were? Thank you for the rest of the information...I did have some of it but not all...most appreciated. :-D
	Researching: cowburn, claxton and norman
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:56
	details of marriage for father's name for Elizabeth Marriage: 9 Oct 1897 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England Thomas Holcroft - 32, Collier, Bachelor, 5 Atherton Rd Elizabeth Cowburn - (X), 32, Spinster, 99 Bridgewater St Groom's Father: Thomas Holcroft, Deceased Bride's Father: Thomas Cowburn, Deceased Witness: Richard Henry Southern; Annie Gerrard Married by Banns by: Fred. W. Johnstone, Curate Register: Marriages 1891 - 1899, Page 201, Entry 401 Source: LDS Film 93751
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:55
	1901 England Census about Thomas Cowburn Name: Thomas Cowburn Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Holcroft Mother's Name: Elizabeth Holcroft Gender: Male Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Hindley Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration District: Wigan Sub-registration District: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 209 Piece: 3561 Folio: 24 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Holcroft 35 Elizabeth Holcroft 35 Thomas Cowburn 9 Henry S Holcroft 3 Johb Holcroft 10 Months
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:54
	Elizabeth Cowburn's marriage to T Holcroft Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%) Cowburn Elizabeth Wigan 8c 27 Holcroft Thomas Wigan 8c 27
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:54
	Household transcription 1911 census Person: COWBURN, Thomas Address: 3 Dog Pool Off Atherton Road Hindley HOLCROFT, Thomas Head Married13 years M 45 1866 Colliery Fireman Below Ground Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 45 1866 Hindley Lancashire VIEW COWBURN, Thomas Son Single M 19 1892 Labourer Coal Mine Below Ground Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Harry S Son Single M 13 1898 Haulage Handf Below Ground Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, John Son Single M 10 1901 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Richard Son Single M 9 1902 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW HOLCROFT, Clarice Daughter Single F 3 1908 School Hindley Lancashire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 23025 Reference: RG14PN23025 RG78PN1346 RD458 SD4 ED10 SN154 Registration District: Wigan Sub District: Hindley Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Hindley Address: 3 Dog Pool Off Atherton Road Hindley County: Lancashire
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 40 Send Message	Deborah	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:52
	thank you thank you thank you xxxx
	Researching: cowburn, claxton and norman
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	16 Jun 2013 15:51
	1911 address matches marriage 1911 England Census about Thomas Cowburn Name: Thomas Cowburn Age in 1911: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Hindley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 3 Dog Pool Off Atherton Rd Hindley Marital Status: Single Occupation: Labourer In Coal Mine (below Ground) Registration District: Wigan Registration District Number: 458 Sub-registration District: Hindley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 23025 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Holcroft 45 Elizabeth Holcroft 45 Thomas Cowburn 19 <<<<<<<<< Harry S Holcroft 13 John Holcroft 10 Richard Holcroft 9 Mary Ellen Holcroft 7 Clarice Holcroft 3 Thomas is listed as son so possibly from mother's previous marriage?
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