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Hi Valerie

Do any of the burial records give addresses by any chance? It's just ancestry has a military record for Thomas Whitworth (no Welcome mentioned) but there are a couple of discrepancies. Firstly this one was a coal miner, secondly he names father as Thomas, although his mother and brothers are named correctly. The family address was 6 Nelson St, Farnworth when he enlisted 22/1/1914. The stated age ties up, 19y 160 days = dob 14/8/1894.

Thomas Whitworth
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age at enlistment: 19
Birth Parish: Little Lever
Birth County: Lancashire
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 10681
Regiment Name: Border
Number of images: 14

Incidently, Sarah Bevington/Whitworth was living with the family in 1901 so he may have been close to her? Check your messages, I sent you one of the military images.

Added, I think William Thomas may have been known as Thomas - 1881 census makes no mention of William, he is down as just Thomas.

Hi Flip,

I saw the Welcome T Whitworth on Lancashire bmd but thought nothing of it and just found is baptism on OPC . It was a Private Baptism at St Matthew's Church Little Lever on the 15-08-1894
Received into the Church on Nov 3rd, But can't find nothing else.
I think I would have changed my name if i had been called welcome.
I will try to get his marriage cert next week and see if the information all tie's together

Thank you again for all the hard work
Regards
Valerie :-D

Welcome Thomas Whitworth
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Little Lever, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Farnworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 127 Cack Market Street Farnworth Near Bolton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Plater In Bleachlborks
Registration District: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration District: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 23255
Household Members: Name Age
William Thomas Whitworth 39 << the one in the grave
Mary Whitworth 38
Welcome Thomas Whitworth 16 <<<<
Robert Whitworth 15
William Tonge Whitworth 11
Sarah Ellen Whitworth 9
Walter Whitworth 8
Wilfred Whitworth 4
Ivy Whitworth 1 << ditto in grave
Grace Tonge 35 << ditto in grave

I just wonder if anyone can find anything more on Welcome Thomas Whitworth?? With a name like Welcome, you may be tempted to change it - and he is the right age - and I can't see a death for him in England/Wales.

Is he a likely suspect for your Thomas????

All those in the grave with Sarah Whitworth (d 1909) are infants born locally apart from John buried in 1890 - don't seem to be able to tie him in. Her husband John died between 1881 and 1891 so wonder if it is him, but he died out of the area?? Are there any other details on John's burial?

In the other grave with Lilian, Grace Tonge (d1923) was William Thomas's (d1916) unmarried sister in law ( with them on 1911 census) but haven't checked out the rest.

Still doesn't get you any nearer to your original objective to find your Thomas Whitworth Bevington though. If he was born Whitworth, I just can't understand why he would go back through a couple of generations to re-invent the original Sarah Bevington name? Or even if he was born Bevington, why use the name whitworth?

Emoticons don't work on this laptop but I'd be confused right now!!!

Sorry, but I've had visitors but will look at this again in the morning.

However, John Thomas Sumner was married to Margaret Whitworth (the one I eliminated from previous census) in 1888 (I think from memory) and died aged just 22 - she was with her mother and brother on the subsequent census as a widow with 2 children. She subsequently re-married.

You don't have all John & Sarah's children - there were earlier ones, Robert was the first that I can see (on 1861 census, born Oldham) but I don't have time to find the census at the moment.

Hi Flip,

Found the grave of
Sarah Whitworth who died 1909 other people in grave with her are
Percy Died 1897
Fred Died 1895
James Died 1894
Florrie Died 1892
Sarah Alice Died 1891
John Died 1890 and a John Thomas Sumner Died 1891

Regard's

Valerie
:-D

Hi Flip,

The people in the grave with Lilian are

William Thomas Whitworth b 1872 d 1916
Ivy Whitworth b 1910 d 1933
James b 1919 d 1921
William Thomas Johnson b 1932 d 1938 mother's maiden name Whitworth
Grace Tonge b c 1875 d 1923,

The children I found for John Whitworth and Sarah Bevington were

Margaret b c 1869 little hulton
Thomas b c 1871
William T b c 1872
John b c 1876
Henry b c 1878
Herbert b 1880 d 1880 all registered Whitworth

Regards
Valerie

:-D

But have we got you any nearer? Could you list all those buried in the grave you've found.

Hi,

Big thank you for all your patience and help with this wacky family
you've done great

Thank you
Valerie :-D

Hi,

Big thank you for all your patience and help with this wacky family
you've done great

Thank you
Valerie :-D

Think this is mother Sarah from above census - not one of them in the grave is she?

Sarah Whitworth
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1909
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Bolton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 250

Found this site whilst googling. May be worth a look?

http://www.mycensuses.com/Quakers.htm

Robert Whitworth
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Whitworth
Mother's Name: Sarah Whitworth
Gender: Male
Where born: Leigh, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Farnworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 141 Bridgewater St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Cotton Oper (Cloth Maker)

Registration District: Bolton
Sub-registration District: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3815
Folio: 93
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
John Whitworth 44
Sarah Whitworth 44
Robert Whitworth 23
Edward Whitworth 21
Albert Whitworth 19
Walter Whitworth 17
Mary J. Whitworth 15 ?????
Margaret Whitworth 13
Thomas Whitworth 10
Sarah A. Whitworth 7 ??????
John Whitworth 5
James Whitworth 3

Haven't found anything on these two ???

Following that 1861 family through, they are the parents of William Thomas who is in that grave.

ADDED; I've followed all the males from the John & Sarah's family, there were quite a few of them by 1871 - and none have a child to match Thomas. Struggling with 2 of the females (Margaret Whitworth can be eliminated ADDED - she is the one who married Sumner) but can't seem to get anything on Mary or Sarah.

Going backwards Sarah & Margaret Bevington's parents were Edward & Jane, who had a number of children from 1822 onwards (lan-opc).

I can't make head nor tail of it either, so you're not on you own Jan!

I can't locate Anna's family either.
Interestingly, an Ancestry tree has a Thomas Whitworth Bevington born 1900 to Joseph Bevington and Annie. No sign of a birth either as far as I can tell. I can't figure them out at all!


1901 England Census about Thomas Bevington
Name: Thomas Bevington
Age: 5 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Bevington
Mother's Name: Annie Bevington
Gender: Male
Where born: Southport Crossens, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Southport
Ecclesiastical parish: Crossens St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Ormskirk
Sub-registration District: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 110
Piece: 3536
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Bevington 35
Annie Bevington 28
Joseph Bevington 2
Thomas Bevington 5 Months

Finally the marriage for the parents of those children you mention:

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Bevington Sarah Leigh 8c 204
Naylor John Leigh 8c 204
Proctor Mary Leigh 8c 204
Whitworth John Leigh 8c 204


Robert Whitworth
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Whitworth
Mother's Name: Sarah Whitworth
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Heath, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Oldham
Sub-registration District: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 227
Piece: 3011
Folio: 101
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
John Whitworth 24
Sarah Whitworth 24
Robert Whitworth 3
Edward Whitworth 1
Margaret Bevington 19 (sister in law)

hi

sorry for the delay getting back , I have had internet problem's.

I found a death for Lilian Whitworth Bevington on Deceased online she was the daughter of the above Thomas , I have viewed the Grave and she is with Whitworth family member's, I have found the birth's of some Whitworth Children and their mother 's name was either Barrington, Bebington or Bevington her name as been transcribed differently for each child they are registered as Whitworth. I also found the Baptism of William Thomas Whitworth 08-12-1872 St John the Evangelist church Farnworth, Parent's John and Sarah William is in the grave with Lilian

Is it possible they might be in the census record's as Whitworth's.

Regard's
Valerie :-D

That 1911 census posted by Jan, showing mother Anna a widow is interesting. I can't see a birth for any of those children in Bolton. Also, Anna states married 21 years (3 children) but there is no sign of a marriage for her that I can see. Can't seem to be able to locate this family in 1901.

I just wonder if Thomas was actually born Whitworth and not Bevington, but for some reason took on the name Bevington. Have looked for a Whitworth/Bevington marriage but not seeing one - maybe his mother lived with a Mr Bevington and changed their name?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Alfred Whitworth Bevington
Name: Alfred Whitworth Bevington
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1921
Date of Registration: Feb 1986
Age at Death: 64
Registration District: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 39
Page: 1039



Marriage: 13 Mar 1954 St Peter, Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Alfred Whitworth Bevington - 32, Miller, Bachelor, 62 Orwell Road Bolton

Groom's Father: Thomas Whitworth Bevington, Retired
Bride's Father: Frederick Yates, Deceased
Witness: Thomas McNamara; Eleanor John Carter
Married by Banns by: John W Hurst Curate
Register: Marriages 1950 - 1957, Page 62, Entry 124
Source: Original Parish Register