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Michael

Michael Report 10 Aug 2013 11:22

Has anyone any info about Hilda Nuttall an actress/music hall entertainer from the 1920's. all I know at the moment is she lived in front street, Langley moor in May 1926 with her partner Henry James Lawrence who at that time was a orchestral musician. I believe this address was lodgings for entertainers.
She appeared as a nun in a play called Maria Monk, but I can't find any more info regarding her or where the play was.
Many thanks

Mike

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Aug 2013 11:45

what sort of info would you like?

Have you tried google and enetrtainment

Michael

Michael Report 10 Aug 2013 11:50

Yup tried all these things, trying to find out their details for my family tree and to see what happened to them in later life, didn't know how popular Hilda Nuttall is for a name. I don't know if this was the name she used on the stage

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Aug 2013 12:02

Ok so its a family tree thing ......


Often finding her birth marriage and death will lead to other things ...

Do you know where she was born, the year
parents
brothers sisters ect??

Michael

Michael Report 10 Aug 2013 12:10

Unfortunately I have no idea or her or Henry's Dob, age or even their death. I don't even know if they got married and this seems to be a problem searching the various databases. I am now enquiring with some of the theatres to see who or where their records if available are kept..

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Aug 2013 12:12

How do you know they belong on your tree then?

Yes that may be the only way to go

Michael

Michael Report 10 Aug 2013 12:29

Granparents, have my mums birth lines, but nothing else

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Aug 2013 12:38

It's just a possible, but you might know from the date?

Marriages Sep 1932 (>99%)

Lawrence James H Nuttall Marylebone 1a 1671
Nuttall Hilda Lawrence Marylebone 1a 1671

Gee

Gee Report 10 Aug 2013 12:40

What about this marriage



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Hilda Nuttall




Name:
Hilda Nuttall

Spouse Surname:
James Henry Lawrence

Date of Registration:
Jul-Aug-Sep 1932

Registration District:
Marylebone

Inferred County:
Middlesex

Volume Number:
1a

Page Number:
1671

Michael

Michael Report 10 Aug 2013 13:04

Wow, thanks for that. Wish I had asked this a long time ago, will check them out. Unfortunately my mum was born out of wedlock and in the 1920's that was frowned on, nice to see they have got married later on. Will let you now if this is the correct one but going on the names there can't be many.
Again thanks

Mike

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Aug 2013 13:08

It may be relevant ( or not) that there are no children following that 1932 marriage, if they already had your mother, and were still touring on stage, they might have decided not to have more children?

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 10 Aug 2013 13:45

Theres a Hilda Nuttal living with James Fredrick in Harrow in 1929
Bassingham road wembely

But it may not be your one

trying to build a picture

i would get that marriage certificate it will give you lots of info

Michael

Michael Report 10 Aug 2013 13:52

Yup, just ordered the certificate, awaiting the post, lol.

Hilda and Henry def together in 1926.
Mums birth line shows hilda nuttall (revue artist) of no fixed abode with father being Henry j Lawrence, (orchestral musician) also of no fixed abode but residing at 159 front street, Langley moor and Brandon, durham.
But where they went to after that is unknown, my mum spoke of seeing one of them in a Blackpool show sometime later.(date and show unknown).
Mum was kind off adopted up to scotland when she was still quite young

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Aug 2013 14:20

Michael, if the marriage cert is not much help , and all else fails, it might be worth your taking a look at 'The Stage'

http://www.thestage.co.uk/

at the bottom of the page it has a link to:
Archive (1880 – 2007)

you can search the archives for a fee ( £5 for 24 hours, £15 for a week) it might just have a mention somewhere of Hilda though it would be a long trawl through.

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Aug 2013 14:45

I think it's likely that if they were staying in the lodgings in langley Moor, it was to appear at the new Empire Theatre? a photo of it from 1941 can be seen, and where it was on the map,

http://dre.durham.gov.uk/pgDre.aspx?ID=DRE1908

Mary

Mary Report 10 Aug 2013 15:52

Connection??
1911 41,Rumford Street Chorlton upon Medlock Manchester
James Henry Lawrence married !!! he is a boarder born 1883 in Islington
Occupation Musician (teacher)

Also at same address are 2 female music hall artists,so maybe he was something to do with the music hall.

Can't pinpoint his marriage.

Maryb.

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Aug 2013 16:26

this is the one Mary has found

e: James Henry Lawrence
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Islington, London, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 41 Rumford St C On M Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Musican (teacher)
Registration District: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration District: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 23839
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Friedmann 29
Nelly Friedmann 28
James Caton 32
Eward Renier 36
Maud Renier 26
Agnes Renier 3
Eric Renier 2
Ernest Edward 1
Henry Edward 1
James Henry Lawrence 28
Dora Lawrence 26
Lionel Lawrence 3
Jane Blood 24
Jane Balfe 20

unfortunately doesn't show how many years married.

Mary

Mary Report 10 Aug 2013 17:45

I can't find the marriage of a Dora to James Henry Lawrence or the birth of Lionel,can anyone else??

Maryb.

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Aug 2013 17:50

I can't Mary, I have eliminated a couple of Lionel births from other info. but not been able to find a marriage.

Gee

Gee Report 10 Aug 2013 18:01

There is a WW1 record for this guy and a Dorothy McMahon (looked earlier today)

Says Henry J was born Glasgow 1885c, married in 1905, in Glasgow


Edit:

Sorry, forgot to say this is the birth for one of the children, the others were born in Lancashire


Births Jun 1908
Lawrence Henry Lionel Lambeth 1d 272

The others were born in Lancashire, can't remember their name now :-S

Edited again!