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Maybe Ann Eckersley had a fling with her brother-in-law???
Which would account for the child living with Ann - and William.



(Good night, Mike - I've been staring at this screen for far too long!)

Going off son Elijah's birth, the mother's maiden name was BURY

Co-incidence that William married Ann BERRY sometimes transcribed as BURY !!!

Re James's first wife, plenty of candidates. Does Lancs BMD give his first marriage?

Deaths Mar 1841 (>99%)
ECKERSLEY Alice Bolton 21 100
ECKERSLEY Maria Bolton 21 91

Deaths Jun 1841 (>99%)
Eckersley Ann Bolton 21 63
Eckersley Elizabeth Bolton 21 97
Eckersley Jane Bolton 21 62
Eckersley Phebe Bolton 21 127

Pity! That was an appealing theory about Elijah!

What about James, Joseph and Oliver, also registered in Jun qr 1841?
Well, not Oliver - no sign of him having died before 1851 census.
But could be James or Joseph?

Interesting - biblical names seem to have been popular with Bolton Eckersleys.
Elijah, Isaac, Israel, Emanuel, Martha, Rachel, not to mention more common John, James, Peter, Joseph, Sarah.

Maybe significant.

Was James, William's brother ?
and did his first wife die in childbirth ?


Marriage: 21 Sep 1843 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
James Eckersley - (X), Full, Shuttle Maker, WIDOWER, Sweet Green
Mary Bromiley - (X), Full, Spinster, Queen Street
Groom's Father: Timothy Eckersley, Weaver<<<<<<<<<<<<
Bride's Father: Peter Bromiley, Spindle forger
Witness: James Ward, (X); James Liptrot

Not William's son ....


Burial: 6 Apr 1842 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
Elijah Eckersley - son of James Eckersley
Age: 11 months
Abode: Great Bolton
Buried by: E. Pigot Curate


but not finding a marriage for James Eckersley to Ms Bury

The Eckersley daughters were all too young to have had a child in 1841, so if he was illegitimate he could have been a nephew, or else the son of a neice.

Birth cert would give mother's first name, and allow further search.

Trouble is the boy Eckersley was born to a mother maiden name Eckersley so most likely unmarried.

Have found all the other births on Lancsbmd ( mother maiden name BERRY/BURY) so it's strange there is no entry for Abram.
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William & Ann's marriage ?

Marriage: 6 Sep 1830 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
William Eckersley - (X), Whitesmith, Bachelor, this parish
Ann Bury - (X), Spinster, this parish
Witness: Joseph Fairbrother; Zachar'h Maudsley
Married by Banns by: J. Blackburne

GRO refs for the birth and death Mike found:

Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
Eckersley Male Bolton 21 146

Deaths Jun 1841 (>99%)
Eckersley Male Bolton 21 96

I'd also say that he was William and Ann's child. On the 1851 census there is a gap between the births of Timothy and Martha (when Abram was probably born and died).

I think the birth and death that Mike found look very promising.

Kath. x

Thank you Mike & ArgyllGran. Shame the 1841 didn't record relationships. It looked as though he was William & Ann's child. If he wasn't, then he was very young, at 3 days old, to be away from his mother.

Yes, Christina, Abram's name is correct.

Just for interest -
the 1841 has lots of mistakes in Ancestry's transcription!
Timothy, Mary, & John have been missed out, and it says Abram's 3 months old, when the image clearly says 3 days.


1841 England Census about Abram Eckersley
Name: Abram Eckersley
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bolton Le Moors
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Bolton
Sub-registration District: Great Bolton East
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 534
Book: 8
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William Eckersley 30
Ann Eckersley 25
Ellen Eckersley 9
Alice Eckersley 7
Timothy Eckersley 5
Abram Eckersley 3 Mo

OR...


if Abram was an illegitimate grandson his mother may have married and changed his surname

????????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1841
ECKERSLEY (boy) - Farnworth Bolton - ECKERSLEY



Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1841
ECKERSLEY (boy) 0 Farnworth Bolton

Thank you Kath & Potty. Much appreciated. :-)

Not much luck with the 1841 but this looks like the birth of the Martha in the 1851:


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1845


SurnameForename(s)Sub-DistrictRegisters AtMother's Maiden Name

Reference

ECKERSLY Martha A Sharples Bolton BERRY SH/3/168

The other younger children are also on Lancashire bmd site, plus a William b1839

You will find baptisms for the children on this site and you might find a marriage:

lancashire online parish clerk

Is this them in the 1841 census? :-

1841 census transcription details for: Heaton Street, Bolton, Bolton, Great

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 534
Book/Folio: 8/14
Page: 21
Reg. District: Bolton
Sub District: Bolton Eastern, Great
Parish: Bolton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Bolton

Address: Heaton Street, Bolton, Bolton, Great
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ECKERSLEY, Timothy M 65 1776 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Mary F 60 1781 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, John M 35 1806 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, William M 30 1811 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Ann F 25 1816
ECKERSLEY, Ellen F 9 1832
ECKERSLEY, Alice F 7 1834 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Timothy M 5 1836 Lancashire
ECKERSLEY, Abram M 0 (3 days) 1841 Lancashire

Kath. x

Found possible deaths for Mary & Timothy aged 76 & 84 respectively.

I see there is a large age gap between Timothy's grandchildren Timothy b 1837 & Martha b 1846.

Please will you see if you can find the family on the 1841 census to see if there were any other children?

Thank you George. Both still living, that's a bonus. Off to look for possible deaths now. :-)